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F.C.C. Repeals Net Neutrality Rules

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Post by tehaugmenter »

austenallred wrote: post #966
blunte wrote: post #876

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1. voters did not elect a Republican government. Gerrymandering has given Republicans wins in many places where Democrats would have won in any other universe. Likely rigged electronic voting machines that have no audit trail have given Republicans votes they would not have had. *Targeted voter suppression campaigns have prevented people from voting who would have tipped the scales in favor of Democrats. 2. Republica…

> Likely rigged electronic voting machines that have no audit trail have given Republicans votes they would not have had. Is there any reasonable source for this other than wishful thinking and denial?

Your wish is my command [1]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1thcO_olHas

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Post by TimJRobinson »

justaman wrote: post #951
chiaro wrote: post #685

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>That is not why this is shocking. This proceeding is shocking because the legal basis for this change is dependent on a false statements about the technology involved. It goes beyond just, "Republicans prefer deregulation," or, "Republicans favor market-based approaches." There is plenty of room and a general need for debates about what policy approaches are best, but there is no room for debate about the answer to…

One could argue that the democrats have an anti-science view on gender. The newest argument from the far left is that there are no physiological differences between man and woman. Biology says otherwise. The best thing you can do is realize everyone is an idiot and think for yourself rather than the party.

Which Democrat/s said this? A blog / site claiming to be far left != Democrats. Saying those in government believe what the some member of the general public believes is not a logical train of thought.

Re: F.C.C. Repeals Net Neutrality Rules

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Post by TimJRobinson »

callmeed wrote: post #424

Can states enact their own Net Neutrality rules? If so, is there any likelihood of it happening in places like NY or CA?

I was thinking the same thing. If they can then this doesn't seem to as big of a deal as I originally thought.

They can enforce NN which will ensure that entrepreneurship on the internet flourishes in those states, which will encourage more entrepreneurial Americans to move there, which will make them more prosperous.

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Post by goalieca »

mcantelon wrote: post #887
goalieca wrote: post #766

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> what do you expect from Republicans Disclaimer: I am a canadian citizen. What I expect from republicans is the opposite of evidence based policy making. None of their policies are supported or motivated by evidence. Pick one from taxes to gun control to sex education.

Informed gun advocates can actually make a pretty compelling case against gun control, but few are interested in listening. Canada's gun control IIRC isn't that much stricter than the US's, yet there's significantly less gun crime. As Michael Moore pointed out in "Bowling for Columbine" culture seems to play a significant part.

Our gun control laws are significantly stricter.

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Post by mnm1 »

emmelaich wrote: post #856
mnm1 wrote: post #814

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That's a silly expectation for a party that denies science whenever it's inconvenient. Climate change, the war on drugs, abortion, and more are all examples of this. This is the party of anti-intellectualism and anti-science, yet somehow you expect them to treat the Internet differently?

Most of drug, abortion policy is due to values, not science. You're corrupting the notion of science to say otherwise.

I did not say otherwise. I completely agree. That is exactly the problem. Policy is based on people's delusions and stupidity, not science.

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Post by nv-vn »

endorphone wrote: post #796
nv-vn wrote: post #742

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>I'm not trying to be partisan, but the Republican party in the US are the voice of a oligarchy. This FCC decision is the perfect example of it -- something they are profoundly incapable of building the slightest justification for, and that can only possibly benefit already overwhelming providers. Net neutrality is 100%, unequivocally favorable for every tech company (Google, Facebook, Netflix, Twitter, Microsoft, et…

Net neutrality is 100%, unequivocally favorable for every tech company (Google, Facebook, Netflix, Twitter, Microsoft, etc.). Net neutrality favors any entrant equally, and thus is un favorable to the large tech players (all of whom can financially overcome any obstacle). deregulation, a free market economy, and a small government Right, and that is total bullshit. State rights is a supposed principal of the Republic…

If it's unfavorable to large tech players, why does every single one campaign for it? These are the companies that make up most of the bandwidth use, which is why ISPs want to slow them down if they don't pay for a "fast lane." Either way, losing NN will decrease their profit margins.

The GOP is for states rights, and they are also for the general decrease in government size. They are against state-level NN because that is increased regulation in those states. There are legitimate exceptions (gay rights, abortion rights, war on drugs, etc.), but those apply more to social issues than to economic ones. In terms of free market policy, the Republican party has a pretty reasonable track record of supporting it. For example: https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/president-do....

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Post by analogmemory »

johncolanduoni wrote: post #811
analogmemory wrote: post #659

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In San Francisco there's local ISP called MonkeyBrains that uses microwave tech to create a wireless network in the city. They put a receiver on top of your apartment/building and then run cat5 or use existing cable. It's pretty awesome and fast. So it can be done. I'm hopeful that people will be inspired to create their own local ISP in light of the new rules.

How is the latency?

5-15ms

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Post by WillReplyfFood »

Crye wrote: post #558
dtien wrote: post #512

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>It is not acceptable to pursue that agenda by ignoring expert answers to technical questions, regardless of party affiliation Your entire premise can be rebutted with the policies around climate change. If something as catastrophic and irreversible as climate change can be subject to partisan nonsense, twisting of facts and delegitimization of experts; what makes anyone think that Net Neutrality would be looked upon…

Or, we can accept that ideologies are how we all make the majority of our decisions and then work to create a convincing ideology which combats the systems of power/corruption we're currently dealing with. None of this going to go away with facts and logic. Change never happened because someone spouted a couple damning facts and shamed people with power.

I agree comrade Crye, we should push for a manifesto, and send all those regressive Ideologists to the working camps so they can rethink theire ways.

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Post by lakechfoma »

dang wrote: post #983
lakechfoma wrote: post #389

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can someone flag this please...

Instead of posting like this, flag it yourself by clicking the comment's timestamp to go to its page, then clicking 'flag' at the top. In egregious cases like the above, you're quite welcome to alert us at hn@ycombinator.com too. We catch up with the flagged comments eventually, but email is the hotline.

Ah sorry I didn't realize it was that easy. I thought because my account is still young and low on points I couldn't flag yet.
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