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Stuff You Can't Say in Silicon Valley

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Re: Stuff You Can't Say in Silicon Valley

#31

I mentioned it in the @sama thread earlier... but we're also missing Brendan Eich being canned for his views on gay marriage

Not his views, his financial support of legislative efforts to prohibit the same civil rights enjoyed by some in this country for other fellow Americans depending on their sexual preference.

He lost the confidence of the internationally focused diverse organization he was charged with leading due to that financial support.

Re: Stuff You Can't Say in Silicon Valley

#32
post #15

Trump is literally putting the health of my country's citizens at risk for political posturing, I think animosity towards him is easily warranted: https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/cdc-g... Apparently, there's nothing better our tax dollars can be doing than destroying some of the most important and successful organizations human civilization has managed to create.

And knowingly exposing others to HIV is no longer a felony in California. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/to-your-health/wp/2017/1... While virtue-signalling about nomenclature is fun, this actually has a measurably horrible impact on public health.

Nice whataboutism.

Re: Stuff You Can't Say in Silicon Valley

#33
You want to know what I think is way, way scarier than self-censoring in SV?

Is that as a CULTURE we are self-censoring due to the Chilling Effect from learning that the NSA collects unfathomable dossiers on every citizens private browsing behavior.(1)

It is sad and hilarious that SV leaders - who have spawned & continue to lobby for anti-privacy technology in the name of data collection and personal information dealing to sell advertising are crying that they can't be honest with their peers.

If we want people to be more open and honest, to be open to broader views than their own how about start by fixing the fucking group-think algorithms that FB / Twitter / Goog are so fond of?

(1) https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/apr/27/nsa-surveil...

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#34
post #24

If I had a nickel for every time someone told me that they were not allowed to say these things shortly after saying one or more of them ...

I think the greater concern are weaponized codes of conduct in an at-will employment environment. If you can’t say something without losing your job, you’re not free to say something.

You can take every effort to respect someone else, not allow any of your behavior to be construed as harassment, and still be out the door because someone objects to or is offended by what you’ve said.

Re: Stuff You Can't Say in Silicon Valley

#35

The cherry picking of this article is extreme. A company chooses to not employ someone based on a multiple page essay and this article takes a sentence and tries to make it look ridiculous.

You should actually read the multi-page article. And not the version hacked apart by tech "journalists" to remove the citations.

Re: Stuff You Can't Say in Silicon Valley

#36

I mentioned it in the @sama thread earlier... but we're also missing Brendan Eich being canned for his views on gay marriage

To be fair, he's also responsible for JavaScript.

True, but I listened to his podcast on the history of JS, and he was hired to put Scheme in the browser, but then management decided it needed to be something else, which turned into a compromise with Sun because they were wanting Java. And then there was a limited time to make it happen before Netscape shipped.

After that time, whenever Brendan wanted to fix things in the language, he couldn't, because you can't break the web for people already using things as they are. This happened several times.

Re: Stuff You Can't Say in Silicon Valley

#37

Trump is literally putting the health of my country's citizens at risk for political posturing, I think animosity towards him is easily warranted: https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/cdc-g... Apparently, there's nothing better our tax dollars can be doing than destroying some of the most important and successful organizations human civilization has managed to create.

What would you say to the reality that the private market has done almost all of the innovation in health care?

Re: Stuff You Can't Say in Silicon Valley

#38

The cherry picking of this article is extreme. A company chooses to not employ someone based on a multiple page essay and this article takes a sentence and tries to make it look ridiculous.

What else from that essay was grevious enough to fire him?

Re: Stuff You Can't Say in Silicon Valley

#39
For better or worse, popular society has become a lot better at detecting dog whistles. "Diversity of thought is more important than diversity of skin color" is one of those dog whistles.

I don't find the discussion itself objectionable, but I also don't want to grant intellectual capital to anybody who is going to use a controversial topic in bad faith to control the discussion. I don't want to be used to legitimize more extreme views. Sometimes people don't bring these topics up in bad faith, but it's been my experience that they're the minority.

FWIW, I don't live in Silicon Valley or in CA.

Re: Stuff You Can't Say in Silicon Valley

#40
post #8

Makes me glad I live in New York and not Silicon Valley.

Honest question: How does New York compare on this spectrum? I had the impression that the political atmosphere there is very similar to California. I loved New York City when I visited, so I’m very curious to learn more about it from this perspective. If you don’t feel safe talking about it publicly, feel free to email me (you can track it down via my account). I wish I didn’t have to say that last sentence, but thi…

Not really. If you think that way, you just move to Staten Island [1]

1: http://www.silive.com/news/index.ssf/2016/11/election_day_20...

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