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Re: Ask HN: Writing cover letters for tech jobs

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I've been laughed at by HR at one startup where I mentioned I did it for every job whenever possible. I usually use it to explain my background, and how it relates to the position. However...I find myself not having to do it much anymore since usually it is the companies that are seeking me out, or I have referrals.

Why did they laugh? Often the job posting even asks for one...

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Re: Ask HN: Writing cover letters for tech jobs

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Don't write one. I quit using them after in interview where the HR didn't bother to provide it to the interviewer who complained about how sparse my resume was. It was on purpose because the letter had much more background content. I've also never received a cover letter for candidates I've interviewed. You have zero control over the distribution of two separate documents. ATS systems are geared toward something they…

Generally I think the importance of a cover letter correlates inversely with log(company headcount). At a couple of places, I have had people remark positively regarding my cover letter. In those cases I was particularly able to show good technical fit and experience with the product space. But the biggest company where that has happened had 200 employees.

Re: Ask HN: Writing cover letters for tech jobs

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Cover letter is email body, resume is role description and bulleted list of accomplishments/value added in each role. I found a way to work languages used in each role in without using a vertical list. For the "cover letter" I try to match tone of whoever wrote job description and convey excitement and cultural fit. I believe this to be very important in hearing back when reaching out and will iterate until I get mor…

I agree! If you're including a cover letter, don't add it as an attachment to your email, put the contents of the cover letter into the email body.

I think email messages are especially important if you're trying to preemptively explain resume issues like career switches, geographical relocation, taken a gap-year, etc

Re: Ask HN: Writing cover letters for tech jobs

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I almost never need to write my own cover letter. The closest I get to a cover letter is if I have an opportunity to send an email to a company I like, and I know the email will go to someone not in HR. If I have no choice but to interact with HR, either I'll see it as a red flag and won't bother applying or I'll apply with no cover letter. Yes, this does mean I won't get interviews at most companies.

Writing cover letters that go to HR is like writing a custom message for every attractive person on a dating site. Everyone says that's what they want, but your extra effort will go unappreciated 95% of the time while the goofball who just sent "sup?" actually got some dates. When it comes to searching for a job, best to not waste cumulative hours of your life writing material that won't be appreciated.

Re: Ask HN: Writing cover letters for tech jobs

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Resume writer here that also writes cover letters for clients, converted to writing after 20 years in tech recruiting. Almost any time that a client asks for a cover letter, my response is "Here it is, and I hope you never have to use it". If you're using a cover letter to apply for a job, it means you have no human inside the company that is advocating on your behalf. Your friend wouldn't ask you for a cover letter…

>Almost any time that a client asks for a cover letter, my response is "Here it is, and I hope you never have to use it". That seems kind of absolute. If I were applying to, say, an auto manufacturer, the cover letter might be the obvious place to state why I'm interested in working there. And why I'm a good choice. Like, "I've always been a car nut. I even wrote an open source library to access CAN bus data here: ht…

Well that assumes someone reads it. Unfortunately that seems pretty unlikely. I used to personalize stuff like that but I got worse results than when I just used a cookie-cutter template and mass fired. Anecdotal of course

Re: Ask HN: Writing cover letters for tech jobs

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I've couple catch all cover letter variations, built with interchangeable paragraphs unless I really, really like the posting.

Never ever worked however. Found all my job trough networking except one employee that found me randomly trough a social network and just decided to send me a contract.

Re: Ask HN: Writing cover letters for tech jobs

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It literally doesn't matter. Every place and every person has their own opinion, and because of that, the worst thing you can do is cater to any one individual besides yourself.

I'm not joking. I haven't even read the comments here, but I'm willing to bet people find them useful/useless. I bet people found it helped them/hurt them. I bet people will talk about how they don't read them/read them, expect them/ignore them, etc.

Personally, I'd write a generic one and submit it myself, and then I'll just bring it with me (along with resume) to the interview to provide as necessary. But that's me.

Re: Ask HN: Writing cover letters for tech jobs

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You should never 'apply for a job' in the traditional sense unless it is an hourly job at a mall or something like that. For professional jobs, the pattern is as follows: 1. Locate professionals at the company you would like to work at. 2. Email them through a friend if that is possible, and if not, cold email them and say you are interested in learning more about XYZ company. Ask if they can grab a coffee or do a qu…

> Any other strategy is a gigantic waste of time.

I got the job I'm out now (since 2011) and applied in a traditional sense. I was also in a foreign country at the time. It was painless and quick. Hardly a waste of time.

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