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Ask HN: what do you know about virtual assistants?

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I am interested in getting a VA to do fairly basic market research for me. It would be along the lines of, "use Google and Twitter to find people who have complained about Home Owner Association (aka HOA) fees in the past 2 weeks. Please include the source URL and the person's email or Twitter handle".

Have you had success with VAs or VA agencies? Are they good for work like this?

I am particularly curious about the bang-for-buck you get from India- and Philippines-based agencies, and what techniques you use to manage VAs.

Thanks HN!

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#2
Go register an account at onlinejobs.ph and put up a job posting. Clearly list out what you need done and put together a small test project as their tryout. Base their wage on similar job postings.

Va's aregreat but you need to respect them and do a great job of managing them. They aren't wizards nor are they slave labor so respect them and train them and they can very efficiently help you scale your business.

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#3
I've had great results for projects like these using my team in the Philippines. I recently had a project where I needed information for all websites in a certain niche (~500 sites). I gave them the specs and created a Google Spreadsheet with all of the columns I needed. Within an hour or so I could see the data being populated, and the next morning the project was done.

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#4
I tried GetFriday and don't recommend hiring out to an agency like that.

Recently I paid $25 for an ad on Craigslist and hired a marketing assistant to do tasks similar to the one you're describing. I'm still pretty early into my business relationship with the person I've contracted. We'll see how it goes.

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#6
For a task like:

>use Google and Twitter to find people who have complained about Home Owner Association (aka HOA) fees in the past 2 weeks. Please include the source URL and the person's email or Twitter handle

I have had good experiences with Amazon Mechanical Turk. Maybe you'll find that helpful too.

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Can I ask why you're opting out of nearshore VA options?

I'm actually not at all, but figured that places like India and the Philippines would be cheaper. Do you think the ROI for native English speakers is higher? I'm absolutely open to all suggestions.

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#9
I've spent a good deal of time over the last year hunting for good VAs. Here's what I've learned.

1. Hire three of four to start. Give each of them a chunk of the same job (if it's research) and see who does best. Then use that person to either finish the project, or give them a couple of new tasks and see how they do on those.

2. Don't go for the cheapest out there. Earlier today I was hiring someone for a research position and I literally had multiple people bidding $0.50/hr. You don't want them.

I usually try to stick with people in the $4.00-$8.00 range. I can't really afford more than that, and anyone I have ever hired for less than $4.00 has not worked out at all.

3. ODesk has a lot of people to choose from. There are quite a few outsourcing services out there, and I have used a few to find people with different skill sets. IMO for simple VA tasks odesk is a great place to find people.

4. Individuals are better than firms. Obviously there are benefits to both, but I have tried two Indian firms in the last year and both were a complete waste of time. Basically there were so many people in the chain between me and the people doing the actual tasks that what I asked for and what I got were quite different things. I have had three different filpinos work for me, and have been really pleased by the results I've gotten.

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post #7

Can I ask why you're opting out of nearshore VA options?

I'm actually not at all, but figured that places like India and the Philippines would be cheaper. Do you think the ROI for native English speakers is higher? I'm absolutely open to all suggestions.

My girlfriend found an american VA for $6/h, she was a retired woman with great experience in the tax sector (my gf was looking for help with her tax accounting business). I'm sure for that kind of task you could even find high school students looking for some works. For $5/h much better search on Twitter than flipping burgers...
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