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Re: Nike’s Two Hour Marathon Attempt

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That paper is referenced in this story.

Amazing how people don't even open the article isn't it? edit: opening it is the easy part, reading however proves challenging for some

This comment breaks the HN guidelines in spirit. Probably also in letter. Please don't.

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Re: Nike’s Two Hour Marathon Attempt

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This is not news. Why is this in the HN feed? I read this article months ago.

To add to what arcticfox correctly said: we put the year on articles from previous years but this one is from earlier in 2017. Historical material is super welcome here too.

The "News" in "Hacker News" is like a second-hand clothing store in my home town called "New to You". Of course this article didn't qualify in your case, but that's the general idea. Older posts can't be new to all of the people all of the time but in the long run there are enough surprises to go around.

Re: Nike’s Two Hour Marathon Attempt

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Speaking as someone who has run a lot of marathons and half marathons, it would be more honest to describe this project as attempting to have a human run 26.2 miles in under 2 hours in perfect, laboratory like conditions. It's a little insulting to marathon runners to claim this is a 'marathon' IMO. Long but fascinating article though...

Isn't this how the march of progress goes sometimes? Somebody does an impossible feat (with help & ideal conditions). They show it can be done. Then other people begin to replicate, and the ideal conditions & support start to be eliminated.

Rock climbing jumps to mind.

Re: Nike’s Two Hour Marathon Attempt

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It is the other way around; running back from Marathon to Athens. The story takes place after Athenian Hoplites pushes back a Persian army into their ships at the Marathon shores, after which this ship sails to Athens to wreak havoc. Hoplites make the run from Marathon to Athens just in time to defend against Persians and successfully discourage them against further attacks. After the Battle of Marathon, hoplites who…

This is not correct. "We ran" refers to the hoplite charge during the battle itself, which was notable for being a long run at full tilt (although Herodotus likely exaggerates): http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%... Here's the mention of "we ran" in Hansen: https://books.google.com/books?id=lAWEPUkz5sIC&pg=PT164&lpg=... The story of Pheidippides running from Marathon to Athens (and dying on…

Thanks for the correction and the links.

Re: Nike’s Two Hour Marathon Attempt

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Speaking as someone who has run a lot of marathons and half marathons, it would be more honest to describe this project as attempting to have a human run 26.2 miles in under 2 hours in perfect, laboratory like conditions. It's a little insulting to marathon runners to claim this is a 'marathon' IMO. Long but fascinating article though...

>It's a little insulting to marathon runners to claim this is a 'marathon' IMO.

I agree. Anything other than a 26.2 mile race in footwear common in the classical hellenistic period that terminates in the ancient town of Marathon in Greece is a little insulting to REAL marathon runners.

/s

Re: Nike’s Two Hour Marathon Attempt

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It's totally a marathon! Sure, the conditions are lab perfect -- but these are also some of the best runners in the world.

I don't want to take away from their substantial achievement but I think it's an important distinction between "lab perfect" and "techniques that would not be allowed in any official marathon race in the world".

>"techniques that would not be allowed in any official marathon race in the world"

(genuine question) is there only one official body in the world that determines what a "marathon" is?

My understanding is that the Boston Marathon (which certainly seems to be a marathon) isn't considered a "real" marathon because of various reasons (weather, elevation, non-loop nature of the course etc.)

Re: Nike’s Two Hour Marathon Attempt

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I believe everyone physically able to should try running 13.1 mph on a treadmill just to get an understanding of just how fast these athletes run for two hours. It is incredible.

>I believe everyone physically able to should try running 13.1 mph on a treadmill just to get an understanding of just how fast these athletes run for two hours. It is incredible.

A whole bunch of treadmills don't go past 8MPH and even that seems pretty fast to me to run at for an extended period of time.

Re: Nike’s Two Hour Marathon Attempt

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Speaking as someone who has run a lot of marathons and half marathons, it would be more honest to describe this project as attempting to have a human run 26.2 miles in under 2 hours in perfect, laboratory like conditions. It's a little insulting to marathon runners to claim this is a 'marathon' IMO. Long but fascinating article though...

I've run over 25 marathons. A half-marathon is a weekly training run. I've got a 3:07 PR. I am not insulted. The limits of human performance are fascinating!

> He drove onward, breaking the tape in two hours and 25 seconds.

I just ran a marathon two weeks ago in 3:15:24. I'd only wanted to break 3:20 that day so I was more than satisfied. Yet I still found myself going over my race wondering why I couldn't find just one second per mile to go under 3:15. Just one second! The mental aspect of the marathon is my favorite part of running.

Re: Nike’s Two Hour Marathon Attempt

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I believe everyone physically able to should try running 13.1 mph on a treadmill just to get an understanding of just how fast these athletes run for two hours. It is incredible.

Pretty sure I'd fly off.

Just for fun I cranked my treadmill up to 12mph which is the max. Not while I was on it because I know I'd fly off. Every time I 'run' I think about fast running for a long distance. Then I usually stop my workout and go sit on the couch and think of some things. Sub 2hr marathon is Stupid Fast.
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