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Nuclear Test Films Declassified and Uploaded

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Re: Nuclear Test Films Declassified and Uploaded

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Btw, here is one of recently declassified soviet videos about first nuclear bomb test.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4BIDzZygIq0

It's a kind of report, explaining experiment setup, equipment, test process and results. Russian, no subtitles but picture itself explains a lot.

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I was a child of the 1950's. Only 50 miles south of New York City, we little grade school kids were routinely drilled in cowering under our desks in case of a nuclear attack. Every time I heard an airplane, I was afraid it was going to drop bombs. Popular Science ran features about how to build your own fallout shelter, and how Dad could prepare his family for the coming nuclear apocalypse. The understated, tragic ho…

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Btw, here is one of recently declassified soviet videos about first nuclear bomb test. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4BIDzZygIq0 It's a kind of report, explaining experiment setup, equipment, test process and results. Russian, no subtitles but picture itself explains a lot.

There are suffering animals in this video, if anyone cares to avoid that.

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I was a child of the 1950's. Only 50 miles south of New York City, we little grade school kids were routinely drilled in cowering under our desks in case of a nuclear attack. Every time I heard an airplane, I was afraid it was going to drop bombs. Popular Science ran features about how to build your own fallout shelter, and how Dad could prepare his family for the coming nuclear apocalypse. The understated, tragic ho…

I've heard it hypothesized that the drills were intended, in part, to make the populace fear in order to support certain policies. Without the drills, the threat of nuclear war would be only theoretical. Having lived through it, what is your impression?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> while deranged world leaders measure each other's manhood by "mine's bigger than yours Not much has changed in 70 years.

Not much has changed since recorded human history.

I'd say something has changed since we're currently experiencing one of the most prolonged periods of peace in the last 2000 years (Europe) [1] and generally the world over [2]. This could be because the "price" of conflict has gone up, but still, it is something to think about.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pax_Europaea https://www.salon.com/2014/01/15/were_living_through_the_mos...

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not much has changed since recorded human history.

I'd say something has changed since we're currently experiencing one of the most prolonged periods of peace in the last 2000 years (Europe) [1] and generally the world over [2]. This could be because the "price" of conflict has gone up, but still, it is something to think about. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pax_Europaea https://www.salon.com/2014/01/15/were_living_through_the_mos...

Except for that bit where we had a major war in former Yugoslavia.

The EU is the one thing that stands between more war in Europe and where we are today. Quite a few forces are acting to split it up. Let's hope it is robust enough to withstand those attacks.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> while deranged world leaders measure each other's manhood by "mine's bigger than yours Not much has changed in 70 years.

Not much has changed since recorded human history.

One of my profs in Uni said that it was difficult to find more than a few years in recorded history without active war.

I would argue there has fundamentally been change post WWII, and that is (1) the MAD doctrine--which limits active war--as well as (2) the push towards borderless states / globalization--i.e. even though Sweden is defined as sovereign, the institutions of the world dictate that if it doesn't do what the US says--whether that be torturing suspects at the US's demands[1] or taking down websites--they don't have much of a choice.

During WWII the drive for technology was extreme because of the threat of being conquered. And throughout all of human history our ancestors lived with this threat. We don't really have this threat anymore.

There is a Keynes quote, where he put it, "it is better for man to toil over their bank accounts than each other." Our wars are kind of laughably phony, and the real battle is over numbers in bank accounts--which seems to be the only reason we go to war now anyways (for all parties involved).

We do have a new kind of religion we are all following in a way in the sense that money and dieties are only endowed with whatever faith or meaning we give them. And in makes sense to do it because they've set it up so the rewards and punishments are as such.

So in a way I think this can be seen as the world'd largest and most successful social engineering project in history. I think it is a fundamental change in the nature of our masters.

1-https://www.hrw.org/news/2005/05/19/sweden-violated-torture-...

Re: Nuclear Test Films Declassified and Uploaded

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One fun thing about photos of early nuclear tests is that the US accidentally published enough info that revealed the top-secret yield of the Trinity test bomb in photographs in Life Magazine: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_weapon_yield#Calculati... -- all you need is dimensional analysis. Whoops.
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