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Re: Singapore's electric car-sharing program hits the road

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Post by emmanuel_1234 »

vadimberman wrote: post #18

I moved to Singapore a few months ago. Frankly speaking, the venture sounds ridiculous. * the public transport is probably one of the best all over the world (even though the locals keep complaining), with completely driverless trains and accuracy that would make the Germans and the Swiss cry in envy. * like elsewhere in Asia, it's mostly about the price. Nobody except for the hipster expats gives a hoot about going…

>* the public transport is probably one of the best all over the world (even though the locals keep complaining), with completely driverless trains and accuracy that would make the Germans and the Swiss cry in envy.

Try Hong Kong trains. A notch better, serving a much higher density population. I also recently moved to Singapore and must admit I'm a bit disappointed with the low frequency, short trains that Singapore deployed.

Re: Singapore's electric car-sharing program hits the road

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Post by jesterson »

vadimberman wrote: post #18

I moved to Singapore a few months ago. Frankly speaking, the venture sounds ridiculous. * the public transport is probably one of the best all over the world (even though the locals keep complaining), with completely driverless trains and accuracy that would make the Germans and the Swiss cry in envy. * like elsewhere in Asia, it's mostly about the price. Nobody except for the hipster expats gives a hoot about going…

You clearly need more time to spend here, your excitement will definitely go down.

>> the public transport is probably one of the best all over the world (even though the locals keep complaining)

Did you hear what are they complaining about? There is a lot of thing to complain.

>> with completely driverless trains

On Circle, DT/DT2 and Purple lines only, so not "completely".

>> accuracy that would make the Germans and the Swiss cry in envy.

This is so LOL ) MRT issues are happening very often, can't remember any other country with such amount of MRT problems.

>> Uber is considered somewhat of a "luxury" service.

Excuse me, WHAT? luxury service??

Speaking of the main topic, I do believe that vehicle sharing is our future and definitely going to give BlueSG a try.

Re: Singapore's electric car-sharing program hits the road

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Post by philliphaydon »

emmanuel_1234 wrote: post #21
vadimberman wrote: post #18

I moved to Singapore a few months ago. Frankly speaking, the venture sounds ridiculous. * the public transport is probably one of the best all over the world (even though the locals keep complaining), with completely driverless trains and accuracy that would make the Germans and the Swiss cry in envy. * like elsewhere in Asia, it's mostly about the price. Nobody except for the hipster expats gives a hoot about going…

>* the public transport is probably one of the best all over the world (even though the locals keep complaining), with completely driverless trains and accuracy that would make the Germans and the Swiss cry in envy. Try Hong Kong trains. A notch better, serving a much higher density population. I also recently moved to Singapore and must admit I'm a bit disappointed with the low frequency, short trains that Singapore…

> I'm a bit disappointed with the low frequency, short trains that Singapore deployed.

Could you explain this a bit more please? I've lived here for 6 years now, been to Japan and Taiwan, consider Taiwan the best of all 3, but cannot compare to Hong Kong as I've never been there.

Taiwan trains are a bit slower than SG, but they are much smoother, where in SG sometimes the older lines (green / red) which still have drivers I believe, are fast and break suddenly that you MUST hold onto something if standing to prevent yourself falling over.

So I'm curious what you mean?

Re: Singapore's electric car-sharing program hits the road

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Post by vadimberman »

jesterson wrote: post #22
vadimberman wrote: post #18

I moved to Singapore a few months ago. Frankly speaking, the venture sounds ridiculous. * the public transport is probably one of the best all over the world (even though the locals keep complaining), with completely driverless trains and accuracy that would make the Germans and the Swiss cry in envy. * like elsewhere in Asia, it's mostly about the price. Nobody except for the hipster expats gives a hoot about going…

You clearly need more time to spend here, your excitement will definitely go down. >> the public transport is probably one of the best all over the world (even though the locals keep complaining) Did you hear what are they complaining about? There is a lot of thing to complain. >> with completely driverless trains On Circle, DT/DT2 and Purple lines only, so not "completely". >> accuracy that would make the Germans an…

> Did you hear what are they complaining about?

Yep.

> There is a lot of thing to complain.

Nope. Not in comparison with the rest of the world.

> MRT issues are happening very often, can't remember any other country with such amount of MRT problems.

Have you ever ventured outside of Singapore, I wonder? Are you even aware that the 3-5 minute interval between trains, air conditioning, seamless connections with other transport, no rubbish on the ground, no graffiti, trains less than 10 years old is not a rule but an exception?

I am not even talking about the sorry American subways. Go with the middle of the way level, say, Melbourne in Australia, Lisbon in Europe, or better standard, Vancouver, Munich, Amsterdam.

The only downside I am aware of is, it closes early.

Ah yes. Whiny people. But that has nothing to do with the MRT.

Re: Singapore's electric car-sharing program hits the road

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Post by telesilla »

top256 wrote: post #9

We had it in Paris and it is not a success. Cars are too slow and small for real highway use, they are expensive and especially dirty. Hopefully they will improvement on all these points

I have intermittent experience and found it useful, but I've only used it "after hours" and Sundays, when perhaps it's not subject to high use? I don't really care about a dirty car: so is the metro.

Re: Singapore's electric car-sharing program hits the road

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Post by vadimberman »

emmanuel_1234 wrote: post #21
vadimberman wrote: post #18

I moved to Singapore a few months ago. Frankly speaking, the venture sounds ridiculous. * the public transport is probably one of the best all over the world (even though the locals keep complaining), with completely driverless trains and accuracy that would make the Germans and the Swiss cry in envy. * like elsewhere in Asia, it's mostly about the price. Nobody except for the hipster expats gives a hoot about going…

>* the public transport is probably one of the best all over the world (even though the locals keep complaining), with completely driverless trains and accuracy that would make the Germans and the Swiss cry in envy. Try Hong Kong trains. A notch better, serving a much higher density population. I also recently moved to Singapore and must admit I'm a bit disappointed with the low frequency, short trains that Singapore…

Hong Kong rocks - agreed.

Re: Singapore's electric car-sharing program hits the road

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Post by rorykoehler »

vadimberman wrote: post #18

I moved to Singapore a few months ago. Frankly speaking, the venture sounds ridiculous. * the public transport is probably one of the best all over the world (even though the locals keep complaining), with completely driverless trains and accuracy that would make the Germans and the Swiss cry in envy. * like elsewhere in Asia, it's mostly about the price. Nobody except for the hipster expats gives a hoot about going…

Singapore has a long way to go before it is "green enough".

Re: Singapore's electric car-sharing program hits the road

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Post by hboon »

vadimberman wrote: post #20
brisance wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>* the public transport is probably one of the best all over the world (even though the locals keep complaining), with completely driverless trains and accuracy that would make the Germans and the Swiss cry in envy. Train service is one of the top electoral campaign issues for the past 3 cycles (about 12 years). I don't know the metrics for European countries but my anecdotal experience in Japan is that the Singapore…

> I don't know the metrics for European countries but my anecdotal experience in Japan is that the Singapore system is not even worthy of discussion. That's strange, while I liked the Tokyo JR system, I think Singapore's overcrowding is better managed. No people pushing passengers into trains. I know it was considered an issue and every single Singaporean complains about it. Which is really, really puzzling. You guys…

If you compare Singapore's MRT system to similar systems in every city in the world, it will rank among the top. But it's a matter of expectation.

But if you include the massive hype and expectations set over the years — and the performance of the MRT system for the first 10 years — the current breakdowns, delays and obvious negligence in maintenance and how they are currently handled is what makes people here complain about it all the time.

Re: Singapore's electric car-sharing program hits the road

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Post by rorykoehler »

grenoire wrote: post #16

I don't really understand the use of the word 'sharing' in this context. This is just a rental system without a preset pickup location. Same goes for similar bike sharing services as well. Can anybody tell me if there's an alternative meaning to it?

Rental is usually used to denote set time and location (1 hour, 1 day etc returned to the pickup spot). Sharing is completely flexible in regards to both time and location.

Re: Singapore's electric car-sharing program hits the road

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Post by vadimberman »

hboon wrote: post #28
vadimberman wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I don't know the metrics for European countries but my anecdotal experience in Japan is that the Singapore system is not even worthy of discussion. That's strange, while I liked the Tokyo JR system, I think Singapore's overcrowding is better managed. No people pushing passengers into trains. I know it was considered an issue and every single Singaporean complains about it. Which is really, really puzzling. You guys…

If you compare Singapore's MRT system to similar systems in every city in the world, it will rank among the top. But it's a matter of expectation. But if you include the massive hype and expectations set over the years — and the performance of the MRT system for the first 10 years — the current breakdowns, delays and obvious negligence in maintenance and how they are currently handled is what makes people here compla…

That makes perfect sense.
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