Earlier quoted context omitted.
How can we stop^H^H^H^H subvert this?
VPNs
Nope. They just whitelist whatever they want, then everything else (including VPNs) gets throttled or capped.
F.C.C. Repeals Net Neutrality Rules
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#442Edit: You know what, fuck it. I don't think I can say anything here that hasn't been said a thousand times already.
Please don't turn HN threads into partisan fights. That leads to information heat death, something we're all here to avoid. This topic is already highly partisan, of course, so it's all the more important not to make it more so. This is very much a collective responsibility.
Yes I tried to mitigate that in my child comment. It is, as you mentioned, a highly partisan matter though and has been beaten to death on this forum and others. I don't know how else to approach the subject when there is such clear malfeasance coming from one side of the debate. Perhaps "not at all" would be the correct choice.
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#443Common response on HN for the past two months has been nothing short of hyperbolic. "The world will end if NN is repealed". Speaking as a conservative: When Obama was president, I got told the same thing about the ACA. The world will end, the sky is falling, America is finished. But eight years later, here I am, nothing's that much worse. I have no reason to believe this is "the beginning of the end" of anything. Lif…
Yeah the reactions here and elsewhere are absolutely ridiculous. It’s almost as if these people have no idea what life before NN was actually like.
I know exactly what it was like. Look at the graph in this article, and tell me you weren't fucked by lack of NN several years ago, if you were a Comcast customer: https://technical.ly/philly/2014/05/09/graph-shows-netflix-s...
Then, shortly after Netflix agreed to pay Comcast's extortion money, they had to raise rates by $1 a month. So, we're all paying extortion money to Comcast. Learn some recent history before you form an opinion.
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#444Can someone clarify this for me? Perhaps my assumptions are incorrect: > 1. Bandwidth is limited > 2. Real-time streaming services, such as video, consume much more bandwidth (by sending more packets through the pipeline) than non-streaming services > 3. Net neutrality guarantees that each packet is delivered with the same priority Say Netflix takes up 20% of the bandwidth through its streaming services - each packet…
You're paying $XX every month for Y amount of bandwidth, it shouldn't matter whether it's used by netflix or viewing text. People however fear that ISPs will start charging you extra for every popular site you want to use, no matter its bandwidth usage (e.g. HN, Reddit, Facebook).
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#445My mother lives in a rural part of Kentucky. While staying with her over the summer, I visited the office of the local DSL broadband provider, ‘Brandenburg Telephone’ and it was like a step back in time. This is one of the areas Comcast deemed unworthy of serving and the result is very affordable max 5mbps internet with top notch customer service.
I wonder how this region will be affected. Anyone have predictions?
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#446This wouldn't be a problem if ISP's weren't de facto monopolies. If there was competition in this space, then there would be incentive to improve the infrastructure and Internet speeds. However, ISP's kill competition by making legal arrangements with local governments to only do business with them, and by cutting competitors' cables. Since we have no way to guarantee reasonable speeds to small time websites now, we…
The "last mile" is a utility, and by its very nature will always result in monopolistic control. It is impractical and irrational to wire up a home to multiple ISPs with their own fiber channels. Each channel could cost tens of thousands to install. Instead the "last mile" should be a non-profit funded by ISPs who lease the channels. The non-profit is responsible for installing the "last mile," upgrading it, and repa…
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#447This has been asked a few times but never fully answered, can someone explain why this vote in particular is a problem? I understand net neutrality and I am all for it, but there was considerable public doubt before reclassification that this was the proper way to go about it. It also doesn't seem like the internet regulatory state of pre-2015 was a disaster. Would we better off focusing our efforts on increasing com…
Except it was a disaster. The only reason the rule got put into place was because Verizon was found to be throttling Netflix. There's no reason to suspect they won't go back to it as soon as they can.
It wasn't Verizon, it was Comcast: https://technical.ly/philly/2014/05/09/graph-shows-netflix-s...
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#448Can someone clarify this for me? Perhaps my assumptions are incorrect: > 1. Bandwidth is limited > 2. Real-time streaming services, such as video, consume much more bandwidth (by sending more packets through the pipeline) than non-streaming services > 3. Net neutrality guarantees that each packet is delivered with the same priority Say Netflix takes up 20% of the bandwidth through its streaming services - each packet…
Your assumptions of how the internet works are incorrect.
Comcast wants you to believe you are buying an amount of data from them. In reality you are paying for a pipe that has a given throughput. If the ISP oversold that capacity that's their problem. Yes, bandwidth is limited but that's why you pay for a big enough pipe to do what you want. bandwidth is also limited because ISPs like Comcast do not want to invest in their infrastructure and feel little market pressure to do so.
Streaming services are not getting a free ride. Big tech is simply using the internet. This concept that somehow people are using the internet too much is absurd.
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#449Earlier quoted context omitted.
USA democracy is failing and this is something to freak out about.
It's not failing. North America is fine; people still want to move from other places to our place. Let's not be drastic. Let's sit down and listen and be calm.
"North America"? Please do not lump Canada, Mexico, Central America, and the Caribbean in with your fiasco.
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#450In 24 hours no one will be thinking about this and literally nothing will happen, despite the absolute mouth-foaming hysteria we're seeing today.