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Haemophilia A trial results 'mind-blowing'

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This is fascinating! I wonder if something like this could get the pancreas to begin producing insulin. Type I Diabetes is no joke. It could save tens or hundreds of millions per year, not to mention multiple injections per person per day.

There are lots of people working on regenerative medicine and gene therapy for autoimmune diseases (ive worked with several researchers focused on type 1), but unfortunately the field isnt there yet.

hemophilia a is a disease caused largely by deficiencies in one specific protein. massive technological breakthroughs in recent years have enabled scientists to deliver genes to human cells to consistently, accurately and sustainably produce specific proteins. so treating diseases like hemophilia a has become tractable

however, autoimmune diseases are much more complex and there is no single protein or molecule that causes the diseases. in type 1, people have been trying to discover 1) the "triggering" event and 2) the autoantigens that cause the disease for years, and it looks like there is no "silver bullet". current drug technology can target only one, or sometimes two, disease-causing molecules, so for a disease where many molecules each play a small part, we dont have the answer yet

there are a few promising type 1 companies (semma, viacyte, others) trying to turn stem cells into insulin producing cells, but those cells are often rejected by the bodys immune system. some other companies are increasing the number of "regulatory T cells", basically T cells that inhibit autoimmunity (caladrius, celgene / delinia, parvus, lilly / nektar); these have shown promise but it isnt likely theyd be curative, as they just stop the autoimmune attack but cant regenerate beta cells that are already lost

if youre interested in type 1 research, diatribe is a great website that aggregates the latest science and presents it in a way that is easy for non-scientists, specifically patients and their families, to understand https://diatribe.org/

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Another use of a modified virus is to deliver an antibody to VEGF, the factor that causes macular degeneration (blindness). Prof. Elizabeth Rakoczy has been recently awarded the 2017 CSL Florey medal for this work. http://www.aips.net.au/news-events/the-florey-medal/2017-pro... The video has a cartoon showing the modified virus being inserted in the retina. I think 40 patients have been successfully treated in a initial 3 year clinical trial. I found these links to abstracts of her recent publications, https://www.socrates.uwa.edu.au/Staff/StaffProfile.aspx?Pers..., but I cannot find an open source research document. Some of her team members: http://www.scienceinpublic.com.au/floreymedal/2017-csl-flore...

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There is a pretty strong argument that Haemophilia is the disease that has had the biggest impact on the last 100 years. Russian heir to the throne Alexis Romanov inherited the disease and his suffering and lack of treatment options destabilized his family and contributed to leadership issues culminating in Russian defeat in WW1 and the Russian revolution and the rise of the Soviet Union. Agree? If not, what disease…

Some high-end estimates of the Spanish Flu death toll are that it killed around 300 million people, which dwarfs the death toll of WW1 (49 million) and WW2 (73 million) combined.

We'd likely live in a very different world had it been prevented or curtailed, though it's hard to know what specifically would be different, as even the existence or non-existence of a single person could be pivotal in history.

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What a fantastic gateway to show how gene therapy can completely resolve diseases. Many diseases are as simple as your eyes being brown vs blue - you simply have or lack particular proteins. I couldn’t find it on a cursory reading, does anyone know what vector they used to achieve liver sinusoidal cell specificity? My understanding is that many gene therapy studies have used blood cells, which can be pulled out of th…

Many diseases are as simple as your eyes being brown vs blue - you simply have or lack particular proteins. I wish it were that simple. :( Eye color, for example, is influenced by a combination of multiple genes. There’s no straightforward eye color gene. Likewise, it’s especially true for diseases when something like “stomach cancer” is actually a dozen different diseases where each is influenced by dozens of differ…

Yes, but for any disease there are a number of known gene polymorphisms that predispose you to the disease. These genes may interact with the rest of your genome in incredibly complex ways, but I bet all it would take to cure a disease in most cases would be to target the one or two most prevalent polymorphisms.

Re: Haemophilia A trial results 'mind-blowing'

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This is fascinating! I wonder if something like this could get the pancreas to begin producing insulin. Type I Diabetes is no joke. It could save tens or hundreds of millions per year, not to mention multiple injections per person per day.

My kiddo has been dealing with Type 1 for two years now and I'm endlessly encouraged by developments in this area. She's just switched to a closed loop pump (Medtronic 670), which helps automate her insulin delivery through automated microdoses (think pump on a PID), but it's still a ridiculous pain in the ass. For example, she didn't notice her reservoir was low this morning before she left for school, now she's got an extra stressor in her life that wouldn't be there otherwise.

And despite all of the amazing technological and medical advances over the past 10-20 years, the best insulin therapy in the world is still comically shitty when compared to a healthy pancreas.

Anyway, it could be way worse and I'm grateful for what is available to us today. Still hope for better days ahead.

Re: Haemophilia A trial results 'mind-blowing'

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What a fantastic gateway to show how gene therapy can completely resolve diseases. Many diseases are as simple as your eyes being brown vs blue - you simply have or lack particular proteins. I couldn’t find it on a cursory reading, does anyone know what vector they used to achieve liver sinusoidal cell specificity? My understanding is that many gene therapy studies have used blood cells, which can be pulled out of th…

AAV is the typical vector used for gene therapy.

viruses are useful because they have evolved to insert foreign DNA into host cells. nothing humans can conceivably engineer has come close yet to the ability of viruses to do this

however viruses have also evolved a lot of bad qualities that cause disease. AAV is nice because 1) it is not known to cause disease, 2) only causes a mild immune response (so the body doesnt reject it before it does its work) and 3) is replication defective, so it wont reproduce uncontrollably in your body

all that said, viral vectors are far from perfect. the biggest issue is that you can usually only inject them once. after one injection, the immune system learns to recognize the virus as foreign, and upon subsequent administrations it will kill the virus before it can transfect cells. also, there is some risk that the viral genome can integrate with the host genome in ways that arent ideal.

from what i understand, the liver and the eye are really the only easily targeted specific tissues. the viruses are naturally carried to the liver, and the physiology of the eye enables viruses to get into cells there easily. getting viruses just to the brain, or heart, or pancreas, is much more challenging

aav technology has been around for a while, but there have been many false starts. back in the late 90s there were copmanies delivering genes into the brain with AAVs to treat parkinsons and alzheimers, and the genes got integrated and expressed by the right cells. however, the diseases were too complex for just one gene to cure them. in many ways, the advances in biology are enabling us to find what diseases are "right" for gene therapy, althoguh vector tech has improved as well

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Many diseases are as simple as your eyes being brown vs blue - you simply have or lack particular proteins. I wish it were that simple. :( Eye color, for example, is influenced by a combination of multiple genes. There’s no straightforward eye color gene. Likewise, it’s especially true for diseases when something like “stomach cancer” is actually a dozen different diseases where each is influenced by dozens of differ…

Yes, but for any disease there are a number of known gene polymorphisms that predispose you to the disease. These genes may interact with the rest of your genome in incredibly complex ways, but I bet all it would take to cure a disease in most cases would be to target the one or two most prevalent polymorphisms.

unfortunately that usually isnt the case. there are very few diseases where one mutation or molecule is truly causative. in many areas, weve approached the limits of how much we can treat disease by just targeting one molecule or mutation. this is an area where $50-70B of pharma R&D spend goes each year for the last few decades, and the yield of that research in terms of approved drugs is declining exponentially

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What a fantastic gateway to show how gene therapy can completely resolve diseases. Many diseases are as simple as your eyes being brown vs blue - you simply have or lack particular proteins. I couldn’t find it on a cursory reading, does anyone know what vector they used to achieve liver sinusoidal cell specificity? My understanding is that many gene therapy studies have used blood cells, which can be pulled out of th…

Doesn't make much sense when my eyes were blue as a kid, but now are green except for a quarter of one eye which is brown.

Brown, green, hazel eye colors are variations in the amount on melanin in the iris. This amount can change as one gets older. Babies can have lighter eyes that become darker.

Blue eyes are believed to be caused by an isolated, inherited gene, OCA2. This gene is present in all people that have blue eyes. It disables the production of melanin in the iris.

All blue eyed people are believed to have a common ancestor from 6000 to 10,000 years ago, the first person with blue eyes (originally caused by a random mutation). It’s harmless enough that lots of us have it now.

See [1].

[1] https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/01/080130170343.h...

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