Disney to Acquire Twenty-First Century Fox • Hacker News Board

Re: Disney to Acquire Twenty-First Century Fox

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Post by jandrese » Thu, Dec 14, 2017, 4:30 PM UTC

andruby wrote: post #83

amelius wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can we have a list of mispredictions?

* Trump as president, predicted in the 2000 episode "Bart To The Future" [0] * Top 10 Simpsons Predictions That Came True [1] (not a great video though) [0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZyaDKaun7w [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQGXofzQEiE

But they assumed that a President Trump would put the country in a huge debt hole, and the Republicans have assured us that their enormous giveway to billionaires would cause the economy to grow by 3% annually for the next 10 years, just like every other time that policy has completely failed to do that.

Re: Disney to Acquire Twenty-First Century Fox

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Post by dsl » Thu, Dec 14, 2017, 4:33 PM UTC

chrischen wrote: post #162

jakozaur wrote: post #24

Sane antitrust regulations should kill this deal. It is bad for everybody other than shareholders of those two companies. In particular bad for customers, other companies and employees: https://www.economist.com/news/finance-and-economics/2172555... https://www.economist.com/news/briefing/21695385-profits-are...

Antitrust regulations should kill google and facebook, but they’re not. In my opinion those two are much bigger fish to fry than two movie companies.

I don't think Google has any plans to acquire Facebook, have you heard differently?

Re: Disney to Acquire Twenty-First Century Fox

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Post by jandrese » Thu, Dec 14, 2017, 4:33 PM UTC

roryisok wrote: post #110

fingers crossed for firefly season 2

This is a monkey paw thing where you get it, but it's the bland by-the-numbers Disney version carefully built by committee to avoid offending the largest number of people and just revisits all of the same ideas from the first season.

Re: Disney to Acquire Twenty-First Century Fox

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Post by abalone » Thu, Dec 14, 2017, 4:36 PM UTC

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #122

jakozaur wrote: post #24

Sane antitrust regulations should kill this deal. It is bad for everybody other than shareholders of those two companies. In particular bad for customers, other companies and employees: https://www.economist.com/news/finance-and-economics/2172555... https://www.economist.com/news/briefing/21695385-profits-are...

It's not so black and white. Stratchery posits consolidation may promote competition at the distribution layer, where Netflix presently stands to dominate: "To that end, might it be better for consumers, not-so-much today but ten years from now, if Disney were fully empowered to compete with Netflix? What is preferable? A dominant streaming company and a collection of content companies trying to escape the commoditiz…

Stratchery has a pretty laissez-faire attitude towards government regulation in general. He seems ok with the net neutrality repeal, for example.[1]

[1] https://stratechery.com/tag/net-neutrality/

Re: Disney to Acquire Twenty-First Century Fox

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Post by cromwellian » Thu, Dec 14, 2017, 4:40 PM UTC

Disney missed an opportunity to improve the world by shutting down Fox News or changing its editorial viewpoint to be more in line with their own and retiring th Murdoch’s completely from the news propaganda game.

Re: Disney to Acquire Twenty-First Century Fox

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Post by dsl » Thu, Dec 14, 2017, 4:42 PM UTC

malchow wrote: post #177

jakozaur wrote: post #24

Sane antitrust regulations should kill this deal. It is bad for everybody other than shareholders of those two companies. In particular bad for customers, other companies and employees: https://www.economist.com/news/finance-and-economics/2172555... https://www.economist.com/news/briefing/21695385-profits-are...

It seems to me that, given tech-side developments in the entertainment industry, increased density on the content side makes perfect sense. I'd be more concerned about a pair of CDNs merging than a pair of movie houses.

You must live in a constant state of fear. Akamai literally buys every up and coming CDN once they gain double digit market share. Limelight is the only real holdout, Fastly hasn't been hit by the Akamai lawyers yet (which is always step 1 in their playbook), and they are waiting for Cloudflare to collapse under their own business model.

https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/akamai-technologies/...

Re: Disney to Acquire Twenty-First Century Fox

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Post by hux_ » Thu, Dec 14, 2017, 4:42 PM UTC

bobajeff wrote: post #188

chrischen wrote: post #162

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Antitrust regulations should kill google and facebook, but they’re not. In my opinion those two are much bigger fish to fry than two movie companies.

I wonder what would happen if Google was divided into a bunch of smaller but cooperative regional search engines/datacenters. Would that be better or worse for competition?

I would like that. A Google US competing against a Google Germany competing against a Google India etc for the global search market.

Re: Disney to Acquire Twenty-First Century Fox

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Post by erk__ » Thu, Dec 14, 2017, 4:42 PM UTC

jandrese wrote: post #178

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #122

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not so black and white. Stratchery posits consolidation may promote competition at the distribution layer, where Netflix presently stands to dominate: "To that end, might it be better for consumers, not-so-much today but ten years from now, if Disney were fully empowered to compete with Netflix? What is preferable? A dominant streaming company and a collection of content companies trying to escape the commoditiz…

Is Disney planning to start their own Netflix-like service or are they planning to just open the online Disney store where it will only have Disney content. The latter doesn't seem like a proper Netflix competitor. Netflix serves more than their own home-grown content.

Yes they announced that earlier this year.

Re: Disney to Acquire Twenty-First Century Fox

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Post by aqme28 » Thu, Dec 14, 2017, 4:43 PM UTC

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #122

jakozaur wrote: post #24

Sane antitrust regulations should kill this deal. It is bad for everybody other than shareholders of those two companies. In particular bad for customers, other companies and employees: https://www.economist.com/news/finance-and-economics/2172555... https://www.economist.com/news/briefing/21695385-profits-are...

It's not so black and white. Stratchery posits consolidation may promote competition at the distribution layer, where Netflix presently stands to dominate: "To that end, might it be better for consumers, not-so-much today but ten years from now, if Disney were fully empowered to compete with Netflix? What is preferable? A dominant streaming company and a collection of content companies trying to escape the commoditiz…

Is Netflix approaching monopoly?

If anything I've seen a ton of competition coming up from the likes of Amazon, HBO, and a billion smaller services.

Re: Disney to Acquire Twenty-First Century Fox

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Post by jandrese » Thu, Dec 14, 2017, 4:46 PM UTC

erk__ wrote: post #198

jandrese wrote: post #178

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is Disney planning to start their own Netflix-like service or are they planning to just open the online Disney store where it will only have Disney content. The latter doesn't seem like a proper Netflix competitor. Netflix serves more than their own home-grown content.

Yes they announced that earlier this year.

IIRC they only announced that Disney content would be on the service.