I hope that the charity looks to sell or hedge some of this....
Pineapple Fund: Donating $86M of Bitcoins to Charity
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Re: Pineapple Fund: Donating $86M of Bitcoins to Charity
#52To the person running this, if you really want to remain anonymous, be careful not to write too much. You can be outed by textual stylometrics.
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Can confirm first hand this is a serious issue in the industry. There are finally a couple crypto-friendly banks making it easier for holders and businesses. Source- have run a BTC co since 2014.
your mistake was calling it a BTC co. talking with bankers is an art. I have plenty of "software services" that primarily transact in bitcoin and cash out to bank accounts from bitcoin exchanges.
Do 10 payments for £10k each, and you'll usually get the same call.
If the word bitcoin is mentioned, even once, then you'll get a letter saying "Dear Mrs X, We are withdrawing financial services from you, and your account is now closed".
This even happened on two so called "bitcoin friendly" banks...
Re: Pineapple Fund: Donating $86M of Bitcoins to Charity
#54It's hard to sell large amounts of bitcoin. Most banks, when they see an incoming wire transfer for $10M marked "bitcoin" will run a mile and close down your account. Hopefully by 'donating' it to these charities, who will probably choose to sell slowly over time or hold it, that alleviates the problem.
HSBC literally told drug cartels how to alter forms in order to bypass security scans done to detect money laundering. It's safe to assume that not all banks are as altruistic as one would hope.
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#55Does anyone know people who are absurdly wealthy in BTC but only average (i.e software eng)? What's their game plan ?
A couple of the folks I know are just HODLing until BTC hits $150,000. Most of them bought Bitcoin when it was a couple of $, haven’t bought Bitcoin since and are just waiting it out to see what happens.
Re: Pineapple Fund: Donating $86M of Bitcoins to Charity
#56To the person running this, if you really want to remain anonymous, be careful not to write too much. You can be outed by textual stylometrics.
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#57Earlier quoted context omitted.
A couple of the folks I know are just HODLing until BTC hits $150,000. Most of them bought Bitcoin when it was a couple of $, haven’t bought Bitcoin since and are just waiting it out to see what happens.
Why $150,000 exactly? Because of what the market cap will be then?
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It clearly has $ in the HN post, and the actual site. And you even know thats above the maximum so your concerns should have been disregarded as erroneous stimuli as the rest of our brains are already programmed to do.
He just wanted to show off that he knew the "theoretical maximum" amount of Bitcoins.
Re: Pineapple Fund: Donating $86M of Bitcoins to Charity
#59I'd love to know what the Electronic Frontier Foundation does exactly with millions and millions of dollars in donations. Based on Wikipedia it awards money to rich people with powerful computers for finding new prime numbers. But it seems to me the other charities are much more deserving.
Probably the two fastest ways to find out what we do (and how we're funded) is to:
* Read our annual report: https://www.eff.org/files/annual-report/2016/index.html (our reporting year is from June-July, so this is up to this summer).
* Read some of the stories from Hacker News -- our work is often covered here, because the topics we defend with our lawyers, activists and technologists are often close to people here. So, for instance, working to stop controls on crypto, the fight for net neutrality, defending people who are creating or innovating new tech, stopping the worst effects of DRM, tracking the consequences of AI, challenging mass surveillance in the courts, founding and supporting Let's Encrypt, etc. https://hn.algolia.com/?query=eff.org&sort=byDate&prefix&pag...
We've been around for over 27 years now, so some of the stuff you might discover online about us might not look so relevant now, but helped set the groundwork for the modern Net. So, it's now (almost exactly!) 20 years since the Internet censorship provisions of the Communications Decency Act was declared unconstitutional, but you still sometimes find GIFs of the Blue Ribbon Campaign EFF worked on to raise awareness of that issue on the early Internet. And the project you mentioned -- the Cooperative Computing Award -- is one of these earlier initiatives. It was fully funded in 1999 by a generous single benefactor, in order to encourage distributed computing in a period where it was felt that the incentives were more strongly aligned to centralise processing power. We've given out two of these prizes over the last 18 years, with two more to go. Of course, distributed computing -- including platforms like Ethereum and concepts like blockchain validation -- is more established now than it was in 1999.
Our budget for all of our work is in the order of $10 million, a large proportion of which comes from individual members' donations. To give hopefully relevant comparisons, the MPAA took $76 million in 2015; the 2016 budget for the ACLU was $138 million. We try to remain agile with what we have, but where new technology and civil liberties meet, there's always new things to do.
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your mistake was calling it a BTC co. talking with bankers is an art. I have plenty of "software services" that primarily transact in bitcoin and cash out to bank accounts from bitcoin exchanges.
How much do you exchange though? There seems to be some kind of hard wall at £100k in the UK, and anything more than that seems to get a personal call from a fraud investigator who demands documents proving what money was moved, where it came from, where it is going to, who it is for, and what was bought or sold with receipts etc. Do 10 payments for £10k each, and you'll usually get the same call. If the word bitcoin…