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Apple iMac Pro goes on sale December 14th

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Re: Apple iMac Pro goes on sale December 14th

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Post by bolololo1 »

jordache wrote: post #19
seanalltogether wrote: post #10

My brother has been obsessed with Apple products for the past 20 years, he was the one who convinced my parents to get one in 1998. He's been a professional photographer since 2001 and has worked on different iterations of Mac Pro machines ever since. This Thanksgiving he finally gave in and asked me how to build a PC for his work studio. He just can't justify working on desktop Mac Pros anymore. He'll keep the mac l…

I don't get it.. PC for studio and mac for field work.. that seems like a very counter intuitive setup. Whatever benefits he get from a mac laptop is no doubt eroded by using these two platforms together.

this is not the main point of his comment.

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Post by wlesieutre »

leetrout wrote: post #7
leetrout wrote: post #2

> ... it might hit the sweet spot for studios that need a powerful desktop they can easily carry to the set. That's an interesting idea. I loved my imac for portability while travelling to a "fixed location". I still have my iMac from 2011 with the box and foam it came in and with the carrying handle it makes it super easy to securely pack up and move. I was about to comment that this really is too litte, too late, f…

Actually it just dawned on me- why didn't they try to make a "pro mini" instead with pci-ex slots and upgradable ram (and I know why- because the planned obsolescence) but that would be a better "middle ground" between a laptop and a pro machine. And better than an all-in-one if they make mini-itx form factor. I can use whatever monitor I want but i get to keep Apple blessed hardware (for whatever that's worth these…

They did a "Pro Mini" with expandability via Thunderbolt, the problem was they priced it at $3000+ and called it "Mac Pro"

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Post by dijit »

jawngee wrote: post #12
seanalltogether wrote: post #10

My brother has been obsessed with Apple products for the past 20 years, he was the one who convinced my parents to get one in 1998. He's been a professional photographer since 2001 and has worked on different iterations of Mac Pro machines ever since. This Thanksgiving he finally gave in and asked me how to build a PC for his work studio. He just can't justify working on desktop Mac Pros anymore. He'll keep the mac l…

Why not build a hackintosh? I've got a beast of a rig that has been flawless. Easy upgrades (though you do have to wait a few days), handoff, continuity, thunderbolt all working 100%. The only downtime I've had is restarts due to security updates. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/JnJCf8

I saw a dude with a ryzen hackintosh rig, it performed incredibly but... even among enthusiasts he mentioned 'This was not for the faint hearted. I don't recommend you actually do this- even though I got it to work with minimal quirks it took probably more than a month of my life".

Obviously not all hackintosh's are not as bad as that (AMD being a completely unsupported platform in Apple-land) but the /risk/ of it is a very large blocker for many people.

I bought my first mac precisely to avoid these kinds of issues.

Re: Apple iMac Pro goes on sale December 14th

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Post by wolfgke »

pen2l wrote: post #8
heimidal wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Which pros? Every video editor, graphic designer, photographer, and web designer I know still uses a Mac...

I know a few folks who work in pretty reputable firms (their clients include BMW and Mercedes benz), they all use windows. I think 3D artists prefer windows (I know c4d and maya work on apple, I wonder if Houdini works on apple)

> I think 3D artists prefer windows (I know c4d and maya work on apple, I wonder if Houdini works on apple)

Apple's problem is that for 3D art you need a current, beefy graphics card with good drivers. Apple only supports up to OpenGL 4.1 (an old version) and recommends using Metal for fast 3D graphics (which is used nowhere else). Under Windows Direct3D 11.x (for legacy purposes), Direct3D 12, current OpenGL versions and Vulkan is supported by the drivers of current GPUs (why do I mention DirectX, even though it is proprietary to Microsoft? Because in the past the driver quality was much better for DirectX than for OpenGL).

With Vulkan support available under GNU/Linux I can imagine that in the future the situation will also improve under GNU/Linux (where in the past the quality of the OpenGL implementations was even worse than under Windows). But I see no plans of Apple on how they plan to improve the situation under OS X.

Re: Apple iMac Pro goes on sale December 14th

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Post by wlesieutre »

ryanmarsh wrote: post #18

People in industry keep commenting in threads like this how they’ve jumped ship to Windows because they have work to get done and need the power now. Other loyal Mac fans can’t belive this and downvote these comments or try to ask for specifics. I’m telling you it’s happening, even in indie shops (source: close friend runs a shop that does big name TV spots and commercials). Adobe Premier isn’t that different on Wind…

Coworker who does 3d and video content here has an old Mac Pro tower with an aftermarket GPU (remember when you could upgrade those?), his next computer will be Windows.

Apple might have had an edge back in the day thanks to QuickTime, but Premier, After Effects, 3ds Max, Cinema 4D, all these things are basically equivalent across platforms.

Except for the fact that on Windows they can run faster on cheaper hardware.

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Post by romanovcode »

seanalltogether wrote: post #10

My brother has been obsessed with Apple products for the past 20 years, he was the one who convinced my parents to get one in 1998. He's been a professional photographer since 2001 and has worked on different iterations of Mac Pro machines ever since. This Thanksgiving he finally gave in and asked me how to build a PC for his work studio. He just can't justify working on desktop Mac Pros anymore. He'll keep the mac l…

You can build a really really crazy machine for 4k USD. He made a good choice.

Re: Apple iMac Pro goes on sale December 14th

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Post by Aaargh20318 »

jawngee wrote: post #12
seanalltogether wrote: post #10

My brother has been obsessed with Apple products for the past 20 years, he was the one who convinced my parents to get one in 1998. He's been a professional photographer since 2001 and has worked on different iterations of Mac Pro machines ever since. This Thanksgiving he finally gave in and asked me how to build a PC for his work studio. He just can't justify working on desktop Mac Pros anymore. He'll keep the mac l…

Why not build a hackintosh? I've got a beast of a rig that has been flawless. Easy upgrades (though you do have to wait a few days), handoff, continuity, thunderbolt all working 100%. The only downtime I've had is restarts due to security updates. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/JnJCf8

> I've got a beast of a rig that has been flawless.

Can you guarantee that ? Who is responsible if an upgrade doesn't work or bricks your machine ?

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