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Even if you bought every package possible, it's still cheaper than most packages here. You're not really helping your case here buddy.
In Europe you can get 1Gbps for 20-30 euro a month, so about half of what most Americans pay for 50 Mbps or less. But that doesn't mean all Europeans choose the 1Gbps option, because for many (in places like Portugal) that 20-30 euro is still 20 euro too expensive.
But I don't see this as an attack on Net Neutrality, you're just charged differently for what you use. Nobody will stop you using Facebook when you have a Music subscription, nothing is throttled.
As Ben Thompson of Stratecherry said here: https://stratechery.com/2017/pro-neutrality-anti-title-ii/ There are the Euros and Portuguese you would expect, but in this case perhaps it was the language difference that introduced its own issues: Congressman Khanna seems to have missed the text at the top (under ‘+ Smart Net’) that clearly stated that the packages were for an additional 10GB/month of data; in addition to…
https://www.theverge.com/2017/11/22/16691506/portugal-meo-in...
Even if you bought every package possible, it's still cheaper than most packages here. You're not really helping your case here buddy.
You misunderstand 'the case' here. The case is that your music startup now has no chance of competing against Spotify, TuneIn, Play Music, or Soundcloud because it would go against your general internet data, not the music specific data bundle.
General purpose internet service isn't going away - too many consumers and businesses depend on it, and, at least based on my last Comcast bill, are willing to pay through the nose for it.
We have this in the UK too. But I don't see this as an attack on Net Neutrality, you're just charged differently for what you use. Nobody will stop you using Facebook when you have a Music subscription, nothing is throttled.
Doesn't the OP show that you need to have the social media subscription to use facebook, implying it'd be blocked otherwise?
EDIT: https://www.theverge.com/2017/11/22/16691506/portugal-meo-in...
> But based on Meo’s website, this doesn’t look like buying cable channels for the internet. It’s an add-on to general-purpose mobile subscriptions, which let you access any service — including the ones above. The idea is apparently that if you’re into apps like Snapchat and Facebook (or... LinkedIn, I guess), you pay around $8 a month to specifically get more “Social” data, so you can use your regular allotment for everything else. It looks a lot like the “Vodafone Pass” service in the UK, where subscribers can pay for unlimited access to a similar stable of services.
This still seems awkward. I still don't understand why the endpoint being connected to matters at all. It's all data going over your lines. Essentially you're paying to "0-rate" a service, which just seems silly.
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Also, one of the main issues with not-net-neutrality is exactly this. If I make a slightly better social network, but it's not "0-rated" it's likely that people won't use it because it'll count against their quota. That's a problem.
Even if you bought every package possible, it's still cheaper than most packages here. You're not really helping your case here buddy.
Portugal have a minimum wage of 550 euros/month and an average wage of 850 euros/month or something like this. You can't compare absolute price.
https://www.expatica.com/pt/employment/minimum-wage-in-portu...
We have this in the UK too. But I don't see this as an attack on Net Neutrality, you're just charged differently for what you use. Nobody will stop you using Facebook when you have a Music subscription, nothing is throttled.
> But I don't see this as an attack on Net Neutrality, you're just charged differently for what you use. Nobody will stop you using Facebook when you have a Music subscription, nothing is throttled. Doesn't the OP show that you need to have the social media subscription to use facebook, implying it'd be blocked otherwise? EDIT: https://www.theverge.com/2017/11/22/16691506/portugal-meo-in... > But based on Meo’s websi…
We have this in the UK too. But I don't see this as an attack on Net Neutrality, you're just charged differently for what you use. Nobody will stop you using Facebook when you have a Music subscription, nothing is throttled.
I'm from Portugal and the different telcos/ISP's don't see others offering this product as a chance to offer a better product they see it as a missed chance to get more while giving less so they don't compete they collude.
And this is just looking at it as a consumer. If I was trying to break the market with a new video service I'm pretty sure that favoring Youtube puts it in an unfair advantage.
As Ben Thompson of Stratecherry said here: https://stratechery.com/2017/pro-neutrality-anti-title-ii/ There are the Euros and Portuguese you would expect, but in this case perhaps it was the language difference that introduced its own issues: Congressman Khanna seems to have missed the text at the top (under ‘+ Smart Net’) that clearly stated that the packages were for an additional 10GB/month of data; in addition to…
Do you work for the anti-net neutrality lobby? It seems as if you are trying to lull people into a false sense of security with regards to the threat against net neutrality.