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Re: Calls for Twitch to police 'sexual streaming'

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Post by ericnyamu » Mon, Dec 11, 2017, 10:12 PM UTC

ben_w wrote: post #16

Waterluvian wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah it gets into the hyper subjective realm of what is acceptable or not. If I sexually identify as a CAS aircraft, will they ban DCS A-10 Simulator as sexual content? On the other hand, they're a company so they're perfectly allowed to decide where they draw the line and enforce that. I just hope we don't accidentally cause a regression with women in gaming by accidentally enforcing a dress code that mostly impacts…

> If I sexually identify as a CAS aircraft, will they ban DCS A-10 Simulator as sexual content? I don’t know if this is a joke, but that is a thing that happens. Given how long I was blind to my own (relatively straightforward) bisexuality, I think the real answer is that people in charge literally cannot conceive of sexuality that far away from their worldview.

Stop this bullshit. God created male or female.the more you understand this the better.so now that you think you are both male and female,are you going to fuck yourself and have kids?

Re: Calls for Twitch to police 'sexual streaming'

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Post by freeflight » Mon, Dec 11, 2017, 10:14 PM UTC

crsv wrote: post #7

It's interesting to see the timing on when mainstream media runs these things. BBC is picking this up when most of the intensity around the topic was piping up on Reddit over the last couple of months. I just find the lag between when something hits the BBC vs the people directly involved with it fascinating. The devolution of stream content on Twitch is really is something that needs to be addressed though. Anyone t…

> Anyone that thinks that Twitch isn't turning in to a soft-core cam girls site can just load the IRL section of Twitch and see for themselves.

And it's not even like anybody is trying to hide it, the Patreon's of many of these Streamers involve rewards like "Private lewd pictures" and their "gaming" often boils down to a video of a game being played in a small corner of the screen or simply playing rhythm/dance games.

Some of these Streamers advertise the fact they work as strippers/dancers in some place, it's a really weird combination of gaming and cam-girl culture. Imho it's kinda exploitive considering how it combines two of the things young males in puberty just love to do and plays on them very heavily.

Re: Calls for Twitch to police 'sexual streaming'

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Post by hyperhopper » Mon, Dec 11, 2017, 10:15 PM UTC

apk-d wrote: post #4

Oh come on, why can't we just have fun? The site already has a "no nudity allowed" policy and a per-stream "mature audiences only" warning screen.

That would be fine, but there problem is the rules are not universally ignored, only for these types of streamers. Lots of guys with a small webcam view of them with no shirt on have been banned for sexual content. Either apply the rules when it makes sense, or not at all.

Re: Calls for Twitch to police 'sexual streaming'

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Post by ktta » Mon, Dec 11, 2017, 10:16 PM UTC

NathanKP wrote: post #15

knowaveragejoe wrote: post #2

Twitch already has a flagging system for "mature" content, and they ban anything with actual nudity pretty aggressively. It sounds like this is actually a call to police the use of sex appeal by streamers, which seems like a difficult thing to judge in general and I'm not sure how they could actually achieve such a thing.

Yeah I don't really understand who is complaining. You have to go pretty out of your way to find these "sexual streamers" and they have pretty low viewer count to be honest. If you stick to browsing Twitch by game you almost never see them, and the top game streams have 10k-20k viewers at all times. You have to specifically go to the IRL section of Twitch to find camgirl style streams, and most of these "sexual strea…

I think the problem is about brand image. All it takes is one person pointing out to an advertiser their ad beside these streamers.

Of course, there's the other image problem with gaming competitions etc. who will hesitate a bit if Twitch was conducive to this behavior.

Re: Calls for Twitch to police 'sexual streaming'

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Post by jlebrech » Mon, Dec 11, 2017, 10:19 PM UTC

women are sexier than men, so this is just anti-women.

Re: Calls for Twitch to police 'sexual streaming'

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Post by Bishonen88 » Mon, Dec 11, 2017, 10:20 PM UTC

NathanKP wrote: post #15

knowaveragejoe wrote: post #2

Twitch already has a flagging system for "mature" content, and they ban anything with actual nudity pretty aggressively. It sounds like this is actually a call to police the use of sex appeal by streamers, which seems like a difficult thing to judge in general and I'm not sure how they could actually achieve such a thing.

Yeah I don't really understand who is complaining. You have to go pretty out of your way to find these "sexual streamers" and they have pretty low viewer count to be honest. If you stick to browsing Twitch by game you almost never see them, and the top game streams have 10k-20k viewers at all times. You have to specifically go to the IRL section of Twitch to find camgirl style streams, and most of these "sexual strea…

Out of your way, you say? Check out the irl section,please. More often than not you’ll find a female streaming with her tits out in top10. Quite often there’s 2 or 3 in top 10. The content they provide is just sitting around and look in the camera waiting for donations and having their breasts up in the camera. Personally, I don’t care. But it’s not like those type of streamers are hard to find.

Re: Calls for Twitch to police 'sexual streaming'

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Post by frgtpsswrdlame » Mon, Dec 11, 2017, 10:21 PM UTC

apk-d wrote: post #20

noobermin wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think the idea is people who don't have the same sex appeal feel they are finding it hard to compete. Also, they feel it is "changing" the feel of the site. Not saying I agree, that's what it sounds like to me.

It's easy to be salty when you're an unappreciated streamer and there's girls out there having an easier time with less effort. However, they're even not competing for the same audience. As to the second thing, it's a valid point, but there are solutions that don't resort to removing streams.

>However, they're even not competing for the same audience.

I don't think that's exactly accurate. Presumably the major audience for both types of streamers is young boys/men.

Re: Calls for Twitch to police 'sexual streaming'

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Post by ben_jones » Mon, Dec 11, 2017, 10:23 PM UTC

knowaveragejoe wrote: post #2

Twitch already has a flagging system for "mature" content, and they ban anything with actual nudity pretty aggressively. It sounds like this is actually a call to police the use of sex appeal by streamers, which seems like a difficult thing to judge in general and I'm not sure how they could actually achieve such a thing.

Devil's advocate: a small portion of streamers use their sexuality to solicit large donations from individuals who cannot afford such donations. Sure you can't police it, but it kind of underpins the site when every popular game has multiple people using this strategy for personal profit. It's highly visible, everybody knows about it. Shouldn't it at least be talked about?

Re: Calls for Twitch to police 'sexual streaming'

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Post by ht85 » Mon, Dec 11, 2017, 10:24 PM UTC

NathanKP wrote: post #15

knowaveragejoe wrote: post #2

Twitch already has a flagging system for "mature" content, and they ban anything with actual nudity pretty aggressively. It sounds like this is actually a call to police the use of sex appeal by streamers, which seems like a difficult thing to judge in general and I'm not sure how they could actually achieve such a thing.

Yeah I don't really understand who is complaining. You have to go pretty out of your way to find these "sexual streamers" and they have pretty low viewer count to be honest. If you stick to browsing Twitch by game you almost never see them, and the top game streams have 10k-20k viewers at all times. You have to specifically go to the IRL section of Twitch to find camgirl style streams, and most of these "sexual strea…

> If you stick to browsing Twitch by game you almost never see them

I don't have a strong opinion of what should or shouldn't be allowed, but that statement is false.

For example, if you browse League of Legends in the evening, very often a couple of the top 24 thumbnails are girl streamers in sexy outfits who are not really focused on playing, and do provocative things when people sub / donate.

Re: Calls for Twitch to police 'sexual streaming'

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Post by mschuster91 » Mon, Dec 11, 2017, 10:26 PM UTC

freeflight wrote: post #22

crsv wrote: post #7

It's interesting to see the timing on when mainstream media runs these things. BBC is picking this up when most of the intensity around the topic was piping up on Reddit over the last couple of months. I just find the lag between when something hits the BBC vs the people directly involved with it fascinating. The devolution of stream content on Twitch is really is something that needs to be addressed though. Anyone t…

> Anyone that thinks that Twitch isn't turning in to a soft-core cam girls site can just load the IRL section of Twitch and see for themselves. And it's not even like anybody is trying to hide it, the Patreon's of many of these Streamers involve rewards like "Private lewd pictures" and their "gaming" often boils down to a video of a game being played in a small corner of the screen or simply playing rhythm/dance game…

I dont see what's exploitive on young males there. Older generations have had Playboys from the gas station and dad's VHS collection (or if they knew someone, their own), my generation had emule, Us porn sites and prepaid CCs, the new generation has patreon and camgirls.