Live data from Hacker News

Facebook wants your children's mind

thenextweb.com

71–80 of 155 posts

Re: Facebook wants your children's mind

#72
post #6
post #5

Jeez I quit Facebook like 6 years ago and never looked back. What’s the real need here? Old buddies you barely know of? Let them go. Just drop FB, it’s not that important, and 70% of people are clearly (by reading all the “I quit Facebook drama posts”) over attached to it.

It is a red flag to not have social media

Why the downvotes? This is a valid discussion topic.

I recently went on a date where the girl told me she nearly had a panic attack when she couldn't find me on Facebook or anywhere else while waiting at the venue. Given we had met briefly at a bar only a week before the check was warranted (IMO), and given the positioning of Facebook in her life and many others, it was the tool she relied on and was disarrayed by.

Sure my case is anecdotal but I do not believe it is unique. Facebook has forced itself to be a single point of failure in parts of our culture, they did it intentionally to make money, and we should acknowledge it.

Re: Facebook wants your children's mind

#73

The article speaks of using powerful algorithms and AI to scour Facebook's dark corners of pedophilia, terrorism, suicide, etc. This led me to a somewhat scary conclusion. Taking the following premises: * Community management, AI, and algorithms in general will eventually be powerful enough to do completely eradicate anything considering double plus ungood by Facebook. * Life on Facebook is a slice of human social li…

Worst still AI will be used to eliminate any activity which is unprofitable for the parent entity. Imagine reddit shadowbanning users who hurt ad revenue, imagine telecoms throttling users based on network activity (oh wait), etc.

Re: Facebook wants your children's mind

#74
post #9
post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is a red flag to not have social media

It is? I have no social media accounts at all and never have. I thought the very idea of facebook was creepy when it launched and I've not changed my mind since. Who will I be flagged by?

It's just been my experience. I'm probably wrong.

9 of 10 people my age have it [1].

Facebook provides a public log of years of your posts. A quick way to get to know someone. To figure out if you should trust them. It's far from perfect but neither are social security numbers.

Services like Airbnb's use your account to verify you aren't a spammer. I have heard of landlords and employers asking for it as well. If you don't have it you are undefined.

[1] - http://www.pewinternet.org/2016/11/11/social-media-update-20...

Re: Facebook wants your children's mind

#75
post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is a red flag to not have social media

Why the downvotes? This is a valid discussion topic. I recently went on a date where the girl told me she nearly had a panic attack when she couldn't find me on Facebook or anywhere else while waiting at the venue. Given we had met briefly at a bar only a week before the check was warranted (IMO), and given the positioning of Facebook in her life and many others, it was the tool she relied on and was disarrayed by. S…

I've been sent side eyed chloe.

Thank you. I think the downvotes are because I didn't elaborate. Making it hard to understand what I was saying if you haven't experienced it.

Re: Facebook wants your children's mind

#76
post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd never hire someone who has a facebook account.

While I don't agree with the parent comment, this seems a bit extreme.

I'm not saying I treat it as a red flag. I'm saying there are people that do. For better or worse.

Re: Facebook wants your children's mind

#77

The advertisement on TV is heavily regulated, I hope we'll get the same thing on the internet before it's too late and a whole generation has lost its attention capacity. Governments have a huge work to do in order to analyze what could be harmful and what is ok, and pass law about it.

A company like Facebook need massive regulations. They are a pandoras box in my opinion.

Re: Facebook wants your children's mind

#78
post #5

Jeez I quit Facebook like 6 years ago and never looked back. What’s the real need here? Old buddies you barely know of? Let them go. Just drop FB, it’s not that important, and 70% of people are clearly (by reading all the “I quit Facebook drama posts”) over attached to it.

I personally use it quite a bit for keeping these relationships alive. I think Facebook is a great tool for that. I have contentious debates over ideas with people I know, but more importantly, with people a couple links away from me. It's been an extremely helpful bridge out of the filter bubble I'd probably otherwise inhabit. Of course, I'm not at all sure the benefits I've gotten have any resemblance to most peopl…

I don't know if it's my age/class/nationality/background or what, but there is no way in hell I would participate in any serious discussion on a platform like facebook, both because they're using that data, and because it's notionally attached to my identity.

Indeed, the main reason to have an account there now is to avoid the "you don't have a facebook account" judgement.

The thought people would put themselves out there like that strikes me as being incredibly privaledged or incredibly naive...

Re: Facebook wants your children's mind

#79
post #5

Jeez I quit Facebook like 6 years ago and never looked back. What’s the real need here? Old buddies you barely know of? Let them go. Just drop FB, it’s not that important, and 70% of people are clearly (by reading all the “I quit Facebook drama posts”) over attached to it.

My reason to use Facebook is to communicate with local businesses. They are not responsive on emails and calling them seem to much a hassle.

I use it for purely 'commercial' purpose and not remotely close of gaining information about what's going on on the world.

One other reason for me just 'having' it oppose to using it, it I just moved into a new city. It's, I think, a good way to have them added on the platform to get to know them.

I agree with you letting old buddies let go. I see, only communication worth keeping is via instant messaging, such as Telegram & Whatsapp. A good way to talk and let me know what's on with their life instead of having a constant feed. It remove the surprise factor along with things to talk about during instant messaging.

Re: Facebook wants your children's mind

#80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I personally use it quite a bit for keeping these relationships alive. I think Facebook is a great tool for that. I have contentious debates over ideas with people I know, but more importantly, with people a couple links away from me. It's been an extremely helpful bridge out of the filter bubble I'd probably otherwise inhabit. Of course, I'm not at all sure the benefits I've gotten have any resemblance to most peopl…

I don't know if it's my age/class/nationality/background or what, but there is no way in hell I would participate in any serious discussion on a platform like facebook, both because they're using that data, and because it's notionally attached to my identity. Indeed, the main reason to have an account there now is to avoid the "you don't have a facebook account" judgement. The thought people would put themselves out…

Completely agree. Associating my actual views with my real identity makes me uncomfortable as well - not so much concerned about what Facebook would do with that data, more concerned with the fact that it will cause people I know or have a strong chance of meeting to dislike/hate me for a reason that I'd rather not give them.

Also, having a "debate" over FB sounds only moderately more pleasant than having a debate in the comments of a Youtube video.

Post reply on HN