Every big fat corporation yearning for even more growth wants your child's mind.
Facebook wants your children's mind
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Re: Facebook wants your children's mind
#32Part of me thinks the the anti-Facebook media sentiment is because Facebook replaced newspapers/magazines as the highly profitable media aggregator. Old media struggles for relevance and lashes out at Facebook, the new winner. Facebook makes fantastic communications tool and gives them away for a whopping $0. I love staying aware of what's going on with my grandparents, old classmates, friends, and family, AND not ha…
> Facebook makes fantastic communications tool and gives them away for a whopping $0.
In exchange for your personal data (at levels not known by most people)
> love staying aware of what's going on with my grandparents, old classmates, friends, and family, AND not having to directly pay money for this.
As one becomes more dependant on it for communicating, they can do worse and worse things and it'll be harder and harder to say no.
Re: Facebook wants your children's mind
#33Part of me thinks the the anti-Facebook media sentiment is because Facebook replaced newspapers/magazines as the highly profitable media aggregator. Old media struggles for relevance and lashes out at Facebook, the new winner. Facebook makes fantastic communications tool and gives them away for a whopping $0. I love staying aware of what's going on with my grandparents, old classmates, friends, and family, AND not ha…
This post is akin to calling Malboro 'the greatest supplements company ever created' in 1970
You're implying that Facebook is addictive and, yeah, that seems to be the case. Good point.
Re: Facebook wants your children's mind
#34From their point of view why wouldn't they, children become eyeballs, sorry adults with money to spend. I've given up expecting corporations to be nice, I haven't quite given up on expecting them to obey the law, the bits they haven't written themselves anyway.
The sole purpose of existence of a corporation is to make money, and it would be strange to expect them to be nice and not use every opportunity for profit. Thus, enforcing ethics is a consumer responsibility: if you believe that something is bad, don't use it.
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#35Jeez I quit Facebook like 6 years ago and never looked back. What’s the real need here? Old buddies you barely know of? Let them go. Just drop FB, it’s not that important, and 70% of people are clearly (by reading all the “I quit Facebook drama posts”) over attached to it.
> What’s the real need here? Old buddies you barely know of? Let them go. I really like this attitude (not being sarcastic). People seem to think Facebook is a great way to keep in touch. I think it's a great way to waste your time, and slowly devalue your relationships.
It's both a great way to keep in touch and also a great way to waste time. It's a useful communication/relationship tool buried in layers of addictive signaling and ads.
Re: Facebook wants your children's mind
#36Part of me thinks the the anti-Facebook media sentiment is because Facebook replaced newspapers/magazines as the highly profitable media aggregator. Old media struggles for relevance and lashes out at Facebook, the new winner. Facebook makes fantastic communications tool and gives them away for a whopping $0. I love staying aware of what's going on with my grandparents, old classmates, friends, and family, AND not ha…
All I know is that Facebook was started as a way of enforcing the picking-order of the local school. Ofcourse it grew, from the same reason kids still to this day gets bullied in school. It's just got legalized by the grownup community. And then we wonder why kids are getting burned out before they even start working? As a bullied kid I already saw what facebook was from the start so I never created an account and cr…
Damn. Sorry to hear. FB wasn't around when I was in grade school. I hope they make tools to clamp down on bullying. And that people act better, regardless.
Re: Facebook wants your children's mind
#37Jeez I quit Facebook like 6 years ago and never looked back. What’s the real need here? Old buddies you barely know of? Let them go. Just drop FB, it’s not that important, and 70% of people are clearly (by reading all the “I quit Facebook drama posts”) over attached to it.
> What’s the real need here? Old buddies you barely know of? Let them go. I really like this attitude (not being sarcastic). People seem to think Facebook is a great way to keep in touch. I think it's a great way to waste your time, and slowly devalue your relationships.
I agree. in my opinion, i believe it may also enable unhealthy relationship patterns, or stunt emotional growth; things that may not have originated had the user never engaged. sadly, not engaging is stigmatized too, complicating matters especially for young ones concerned about their impression.
for example, when i used fb for a time it bothered me that there was stigma against "unfriending". I would frequently make new accounts and remember feeling guilt for doing so.
Eventually ditched it permanently about 5 years ago. Friends from my mid 20s seemed to keep it around as entertainment (waiting for others to embarrass themselves in everyday updates, trolling groups, stalking for conversation topics) and self comparison. they claimed, "we only use it ironically lol" and no longer planned events through it, shared photos or life stories, etc.
It was gross and I feared I'd become a target when I had the account. I used to check my feed just to make sure I was still "cool" with everyone. I was bullied as a child and went through emotional trauma so sadly I was a great target for an all-day everyday user.
Eventually I couldn't handle the pressure, and disagreed with fb's 'vision' (ads) and privacy policies so I refused to use it. first year after doing so i was upset that "nobody kept in touch outside of the fb platform". much later, i am grateful they didnt, as I'm in a wildly different place in my life. I would not be where I am now had I not moved on from those toxic, enabling relationships. Obviously this is not the case for everyone, but I wanted to share my perspective.
Mindblowing to me that parents allow use of the platform to children. when I was legally an adult I didn't possess the mental capacity to take a step back and question what I got out of the site, placing "importance of friendship and loyalty" above my own feelings. I cannot begin to fathom how the platform would have twisted my thinking, and relationships, and sense of self as a child or even teen. given the suspicion (or reality) that other relationships get devalued over time, won't the "relationship" with one's own ego/self image will get devalued as well with continued use?
I hope there is some way to educate children and teens about the mental/social/behavioral implications of using social media -- or even different levels of involvement. but I don't know if that should be in school syllabus or the responsibility of the parents. perhaps both?
My post got longer than intended, sorry! I am very passionate about the subject
Re: Facebook wants your children's mind
#38Part of me thinks the the anti-Facebook media sentiment is because Facebook replaced newspapers/magazines as the highly profitable media aggregator. Old media struggles for relevance and lashes out at Facebook, the new winner. Facebook makes fantastic communications tool and gives them away for a whopping $0. I love staying aware of what's going on with my grandparents, old classmates, friends, and family, AND not ha…
> Facebook makes fantastic communications tool and gives them away for a whopping $0. In exchange for your personal data (at levels not known by most people) > love staying aware of what's going on with my grandparents, old classmates, friends, and family, AND not having to directly pay money for this. As one becomes more dependant on it for communicating, they can do worse and worse things and it'll be harder and ha…
> As one becomes more dependant on it for communicating, they can do worse and worse things and it'll be harder and harder to say no.
Yeah, that explains why younger generations care less about data privacy. Already the convenience is hard to beat.
Re: Facebook wants your children's mind
#39From their point of view why wouldn't they, children become eyeballs, sorry adults with money to spend. I've given up expecting corporations to be nice, I haven't quite given up on expecting them to obey the law, the bits they haven't written themselves anyway.
The sole purpose of existence of a corporation is to make money, and it would be strange to expect them to be nice and not use every opportunity for profit. Thus, enforcing ethics is a consumer responsibility: if you believe that something is bad, don't use it.
The sole purpose of getting a job is to make money and yet we expect our fellow citizens to have stronger morals than just greed.
Re: Facebook wants your children's mind
#40NRK (Norways largest media corp) har a great story yesterday about the how the highly addictive snapstreaks feature in Snapchat are controlling teen's lives: