The world needs more SolarCoin and less Crypto Kitties https://cleantechnica.com/2017/06/29/solarcoin-cryptocurrenc...
So how does proof of solar work? It's merely centralized payback points for solar without any promised value?
Video Shows Starving Polar Bear on Iceless Land
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#42Earlier quoted context omitted.
Has anyone in the linked article or in these comments tried to position this video as evidence of climate change? I don't see it if so.
Sure, it's in the original article. > By telling the story of one polar bear, Nicklen hopes to convey a larger message about how a warming climate has deadly consequences.
No. "Here's an example of the effects of climate change" is not the same thing as "this is proof of climate change"
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#43Meanwhile, we out here obsessing about making money on BTC...
There are folks who on purpose do not participate in BTC because they know the energy consumption is wrong. Go tell people about it and they might get it.
What a pathetic argument. Do you realize how much energy is used to maintain existing computers systems used by banks for all their fake fiat currency?
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#44Maybe you'd prefer watching a polar bear eat a seal alive?
No I'd prefer the ice caps not to be melting
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#45Earlier quoted context omitted.
We need to use whatever arguments are effective to steer people and governments to good policy as long as we know those arguments are supporting a cause that is scientifically backed. Some people don't get and don't want to get scientific evidence. If there is a plausible causal chain from global climate change to that suffering polar bear we should be using that polar bear to convince people climate change is real a…
That’s called propoganda. You advocate using propoganda to justify a cause you have predetermined to be scientifically backed. Why not just use the scientific backing directly?
Those who understand Climate Change and love science should not cede the ground to those who disagree with them without a fight.
Most people don't understand science at the same level as many of the participants in HN. They are not bad people, and they are not necessarily ignorant people. But they don't base their decision-making process on scientific principles. Someone needs to reach out to these people and help them understand the world we live in.
Ten minutes on Fox News and similar sites should convince anyone that Climate Change deniers understand how to influence people and do all they can to advocate for those who profit from policies that harm our world. We have to use the available tools to counter their arguments.
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#46Earlier quoted context omitted.
We need to use whatever arguments are effective to steer people and governments to good policy as long as we know those arguments are supporting a cause that is scientifically backed. Some people don't get and don't want to get scientific evidence. If there is a plausible causal chain from global climate change to that suffering polar bear we should be using that polar bear to convince people climate change is real a…
That’s called propoganda. You advocate using propoganda to justify a cause you have predetermined to be scientifically backed. Why not just use the scientific backing directly?
Because a large portion of people in the world are not swayed by logical arguments. So, if you want to be an effective communicator, you need to talk to them in a way that works.
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#47maybe the bear is diseased?
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#48Earlier quoted context omitted.
We need to use whatever arguments are effective to steer people and governments to good policy as long as we know those arguments are supporting a cause that is scientifically backed. Some people don't get and don't want to get scientific evidence. If there is a plausible causal chain from global climate change to that suffering polar bear we should be using that polar bear to convince people climate change is real a…
There is no way for the general public to distinguish between arguments presented in this way that are genuine, and ones that are pseudoscientific. It's never ok to knowingly present information which is unscientific, to achieve a political end. It can be discredited and may do more damage to the cause than good. In this particular case, polar bear populations are not observed to be in decline, so it's a poor argumen…
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Re: Video Shows Starving Polar Bear on Iceless Land
#49Maybe you'd prefer watching a polar bear eat a seal alive?
yea no kiddin seals are probably in favor of climate change