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Re: Mozilla’s revenue increased significantly in 2016

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I don't think Google provided much revenue in 2016; Yahoo was the search provider in the U.S. Mozilla is not tied to Google.

google was the default search engine in the rest of the world where it has the most market share except maybe Russia, also this was a move by yahoo in order to help with selling their business at a non negative price tag.

Google stopped paying Mozilla for that as their global deal expired and Mozilla signed with Yahoo.

Re: Mozilla’s revenue increased significantly in 2016

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Firefox, please I need my tabbed browsing back! One click and boom it opens a new tab after clicking a link, opening a bookmark, rendering a search result and etc! Tab Mix Plus made Firefox my default browser yet it’s not supported and or there’s new substitute :-( I reverted back to the previous release but then it seemed After a week to start displaying hacked behavior. Started opening tons of windows with each cli…

As a TreeyStyleTabs fan, I am 100% happy with Firefox 57.

As you probably know, no other browser (other than ones based on older Firefox versions) supports anything like Tab Mix Plus. And there's a reason for that.

Re: Mozilla’s revenue increased significantly in 2016

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"Mozilla ditched Yahoo recently however in favor of Google, two years before the five year contract would be up for renewal. The terms of the new deal with Google have not been revealed yet, and it remains to be seen whether this new deal will give Mozilla's revenue another boost in 2017." Apparently Firefox 57 when it is installed tries to switch the users default search engine to Google. Whether it asks for user pe…

Maybe? It certainly continues to raise the cost to Google for the search traffic provided by Firefox. When Firefox switched to Firefox it boosted Yahoo!'s organic share of search [1], which if it held up at the 2% speculated would represent about (16.8B * 2%) 336M searches in Feb '17 [2] attributable to the Mozilla deal. One would need to work backward from the revenue per thousand (RPM) to see what sort of ROI that…

My handwave for the previous Google deal was that Mozilla was getting paid about 10% of the money Google made from Firefox searches. There's a lot of money there.

Re: Mozilla’s revenue increased significantly in 2016

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post #42

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Hm, if that's the case, then it's a bug. If you could file a bug at bugzilla.mozilla.org it would be much appreciated. Even though it already happened we can try and ensure it doesn't happen again.

Apparently it is a bug. It works for search engines shipped with Firefox (such as DuckSuckGo) but not for others (such as StartPage of Qwant). See https://twitter.com/gchampeau/status/938757076213518336

It sounds like Mozilla just wants to keep users confined to a pre-approved list of search engines. Are these also business partners with Mozilla, like Google?

Here are some other HTTPS-enabled search engines to test. If I am not mistaken all have been mentioned on HN in the past.

    https://wiby.me 
    https://gigablast.com
    https://mojeek.com
    https://unbubble.eu
    https://ecosia.org
    https://searx.me
    https://symbolhound.com
    https://findx.com

Re: Mozilla’s revenue increased significantly in 2016

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I think quite the opposite that they do not care for their users and blatantly disregard user feedback and users. From experience after having repeatedly told that I'm not significant/worthy enough for a variety of reasons for not using windows, not using gnome, not using pulseaudio, working with older people who have a hard time dealing with computers, having a use for disabling javascript, disabling spying telemetr…

I’m sad you have been downvoted so badly. Whilst I disagree largely, these criticisms are valid.

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Re: Mozilla’s revenue increased significantly in 2016

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The Mozilla Treasurer and Chair are still taking $1M each, right? Why is this scandal going unreported? Are there really no experienced managers willing to run this potentially great organization for $300k/year? Why would we want people who are willing to take so much money from an open source project? Why are there 1200 people at Mozilla and so little product to show? Why do they constantly spend all of their revenu…

> It appears a lot like Mozilla is a corrupt organization taking bribes from its competitor (Google) to not actually compete. There may even be a need for government intervention.

Yes, clearly I only pretend to work nights and weekends as cover for shadowy secret Google payments.

Re: Mozilla’s revenue increased significantly in 2016

#98

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You don't need a cash flow statement to show revenue. And if the cash flow statement is prepared using the indirect method (start with net profit, and adjust non-cash items) it may not even show revenue at all.

You don't, but it works a hell of a lot better than a subset of a balance sheet at a single point in time.

Probably, but sometimes both will be equally useless.

Re: Mozilla’s revenue increased significantly in 2016

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Chrome needs at least some kind of a fragment of competition to keep them from stagnating. Lord knows neither of the other two (Safari and Edge) are even close enough to threaten.

I don't think stagnating is the risk with Chrome; I think Chrome running too far ahead and shipping things with only high-level buy-in from vendors (but no review of detail, or any plan to implement soon) is a much bigger risk.

Chrome is the client side of Google's play to control both client and server on the "Open Web" and, more broadly, to own the surveillance economy.
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