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Mozilla’s revenue increased significantly in 2016

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Re: Mozilla’s revenue increased significantly in 2016

#21
I tend to voice a lot of upset opinions about Mozilla, but I am still grateful for the work they do. It's nice to see that they have such a big resource pool to work with, as they are one of the few groups that I think genuinely cares for it's users.

It's also nice to be able to show other groups: Yes, you can be a "do good" company, and make a good living.

Re: Mozilla’s revenue increased significantly in 2016

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"Mozilla ditched Yahoo recently however in favor of Google, two years before the five year contract would be up for renewal. The terms of the new deal with Google have not been revealed yet, and it remains to be seen whether this new deal will give Mozilla's revenue another boost in 2017." Apparently Firefox 57 when it is installed tries to switch the users default search engine to Google. Whether it asks for user pe…

On my machine it stayed with ddg. shrug

Re: Mozilla’s revenue increased significantly in 2016

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The Mozilla Treasurer and Chair are still taking $1M each, right? Why is this scandal going unreported?

Are there really no experienced managers willing to run this potentially great organization for $300k/year? Why would we want people who are willing to take so much money from an open source project?

Why are there 1200 people at Mozilla and so little product to show? Why do they constantly spend all of their revenue? Why is it continuing to lose marketshare? Why is there no oversight or improvement after years?

It appears a lot like Mozilla is a corrupt organization taking bribes from its competitor (Google) to not actually compete. There may even be a need for government intervention.

Mozilla spends all of its money, so it's in a perpetual state of needing more. Google probably makes it known that any serious competition would result in the money faucet being shut off.

A competent and uncorrupt Mozilla could have built a Google Search competitor by now and even better browser. It's disappointing.

Re: Mozilla’s revenue increased significantly in 2016

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

In 2017 who’s still using Yahoo anyway for their search engine?

I was going to ask the same thing. But also why are people still using Google? I've been using DuckDuckGo for years and only use Google when I'm forced to (like in Chrome on iOS).

Because fairly frequently, I'll search for something on DDG, not find what I was expecting, and try on Google as a backup. And because in many people's minds, Google is search.

Re: Mozilla’s revenue increased significantly in 2016

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Firefox, please I need my tabbed browsing back! One click and boom it opens a new tab after clicking a link, opening a bookmark, rendering a search result and etc! Tab Mix Plus made Firefox my default browser yet it’s not supported and or there’s new substitute :-( I reverted back to the previous release but then it seemed After a week to start displaying hacked behavior. Started opening tons of windows with each cli…

Get over it, firefox is dead. Mozilla does not care the least about you or your needs.

Your best option right now is waterfox (yup the name says it all), it has no plan of dropping support for "legacy" extensions and even has plan to offer its own add-on store to save the legacy extensions.

https://waterfoxproject.org/

Re: Mozilla’s revenue increased significantly in 2016

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

A few years ago when Mozilla switched from Google to Yahoo, they updated Firefox on my Mac and changed my default search from Google to Yahoo. It was not a new installation, it was an upgrade, and I was not asked about the switch.

If you don't change the default search engine, then updates to the default search engine will affect you. If you explicitly change the default, then the updates should leave your choice intact.

I had another provider explicitly set default search engine, but was asked if it could switch to Google during the Ubuntu update to 57.

Annoying.

Re: Mozilla’s revenue increased significantly in 2016

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post #23

The Mozilla Treasurer and Chair are still taking $1M each, right? Why is this scandal going unreported? Are there really no experienced managers willing to run this potentially great organization for $300k/year? Why would we want people who are willing to take so much money from an open source project? Why are there 1200 people at Mozilla and so little product to show? Why do they constantly spend all of their revenu…

When making bold claims and assertions, you should cite facts.

Re: Mozilla’s revenue increased significantly in 2016

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post #23

The Mozilla Treasurer and Chair are still taking $1M each, right? Why is this scandal going unreported? Are there really no experienced managers willing to run this potentially great organization for $300k/year? Why would we want people who are willing to take so much money from an open source project? Why are there 1200 people at Mozilla and so little product to show? Why do they constantly spend all of their revenu…

This is something I wondered about for quite some time now. How come so many employees and so much spent money with so little to show for it.

Reading the reason for dropping alsa support or refusing to have better linux integration it seems mozilla is short on dev time and resources which they clearly are not.

Do you remember when they got 10 000 people donating money to pay to place an ad for firefox 1.0 in NY Times while at the same time they had revenue in tens of millions of dollars ?

Mozilla had a strong stance against a content blocker in firefox for what ? 15 years ? Whatever they said to justify this position it is obvious that the actual reason is conflict of interest with their main source or revenue.

Isn't it strange that while their user base has been divided by 5 their revenue has been up by more than a hundred millions ? Even more so when this revenue is based on number of users being sent to search engine of this commercial partner.

Has anyone on HN and explanation for this ?

Re: Mozilla’s revenue increased significantly in 2016

#30
Well, i've been running firefox pretty consistently since I switched from Netscape all those years ago. I've tried pretty much every browser out there, and have a fair number of them installed but came back to FF...

But 57, is likely the end. Yah, they fixed it. Its a little faster, but it still seems to consume RAM/CPU until my whole machine grinds to a halt. Previously, when it did this I could be assured that it likely wasn't consuming more than ~2GB and a little more than 100% of a core.

So, unless they fix this decade long RAM/CPU consumption problem they have, i'm getting rid of it. I don't mind having to kill it every couple days, I just can't stand having to wait 30+ seconds for the task manager to swap in so that I can kill it. At least on linux I can constrain its resources, but i'm not going to run it in a VM (like I do java) just to have some control when it goes all piggy.

(some of this is likely my own fault, and happens with other browsers too, since I haven't managed to cure my tabitus habit of failing to close tabs i still have interest in).

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