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macOS lock screen: “I just sent my session pass to my whole team”

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Re: macOS lock screen: “I just sent my session pass to my whole team”

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Post by hashbig »

csomar wrote: post #88

I'm really bothered. While I had relatively no issues with the fresh OS X update, I'm having a hard time with the iPhone 7 and the new iOS that is supposed to run their flagship device: iPhone 10. While most of the bugs have disappeared with the recent update, there are still some minor ones that really pisses me off: Screen freezing unresponsively for 30-60 seconds before things get back to control; and music playin…

Wouldn't be surprised if it was intentional. Apple is known for planned obsolescence for their products, especially iPhones.

Re: macOS lock screen: “I just sent my session pass to my whole team”

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Post by rrdharan »

feelin_googley wrote: post #178
gonational wrote: post #63

With no disrespect to the developers at Apple, et al, each one of these problems that goes viral before reaching “proper” channels is a well-deserved slap in the face of these behemoth organizations. Perhaps, if the entire tech community regards Apple as a joke, they will start paying attention. “Responsible disclosure” is great stuff for creating a culture of free outsourcing of tech companies’ most imporant feature…

"With no disrespect to the developers at Apple, et. al., each one of these problems that goes viral before reaching "proper" channels..." s/that goes viral before reaching \"proper\" channels// The fact that the problems existed to begin with is more troubling than whether they became known outside the company or not. IMO. With an open source UNIX-like OS (like the ones Apple sourced from for parts of macOS), both th…

Ironically Linux has had so many long standing versions of this exact vulnerability (screensaver issues leading to various forms of terrible disclosure) that it's not even really interesting to talk about them.

I'd send you to the relevant jwz rants but I'd rather spare everyone the goatse-ing...

Re: macOS lock screen: “I just sent my session pass to my whole team”

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Post by fleitz »

fleitz wrote: post #147
daveFNbuck wrote: post #109

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How do you do that?

- (void) viewDidAppear{ [super viewDidAppear]; [self.passwordfield becomeFirstResponder]; }

I guess I got down voted for Obj C code, here's the swift version:

   func viewDidAppear(){ 
     super.viewDidAppear() 
     passwordField.becomeFirstResponder()
   }

Re: macOS lock screen: “I just sent my session pass to my whole team”

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Post by ssijak »

joemi wrote: post #169
djsumdog wrote: post #7

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Most people not in tech or infosec have never heard of and are totally uneducated about the concept of responsible disclosure. Maybe it needs to be added to high school computer class?

I've said it before and I'll say it again: You don't need to have heard of "responsible disclosure" to understand that publicly pointing out a bug before it's fixed can lead to people who did not previously know about the bug hearing about it and exploiting it maliciously. That just seems like common sense to me and (I'm willing to bet) many others.

Common scence is highly volatile variable thou..

Re: macOS lock screen: “I just sent my session pass to my whole team”

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Post by j4ship »

gonational wrote: post #63

With no disrespect to the developers at Apple, et al, each one of these problems that goes viral before reaching “proper” channels is a well-deserved slap in the face of these behemoth organizations. Perhaps, if the entire tech community regards Apple as a joke, they will start paying attention. “Responsible disclosure” is great stuff for creating a culture of free outsourcing of tech companies’ most imporant feature…

we do regard them as a joke, apple is for you non techies that like cool stuff and dont care about being over charged for a metal case .... how many iphone have broken screens.

Apple customers dont care about the tech , they care about cool. This is what Steve Jobs and apple as branded themselves on so thats what you get, cool without good tech. And it wont matter becuase that is not the reason people buy Apple.

Tech community doesnt care about Apple, but the engineers will happily take their money to work on their products. If apple falls programming and computing will go on happily and at least we wont have to build over priced products for a bunch of children to take selfie shots that dont care 2 cents that they have a technical marvel in their hands.

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Post by ta444555 »

ryandrake wrote: post #175
tracker1 wrote: post #161

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Linux specifically has a horrible track record for sleep/battery management in laptops, and worse recovery. Windows used to be far more buggy, but the long XP era a lot of that was fixed by XP SP3. Aside: I just wish there was an option in Mac to use "PC Shortcuts" in all my apps... it's the only place where some of the key combinations feel truly alien in most apps. I use a "PC" keyboard, but remap CMD to CTRL, ALT…

Not just a horrible track record, but the current state is also bad. I have a pretty recent Debian install on a bog standard Lenovo which otherwise runs Linux beautifully. It took days of fiddling with conf files and trying things out to get Suspend and Hibernation to work in a sensible way. The kernel, systemd and Gnome all try to do stuff, but they can't seem to agree on who's responsible for what part of power man…

Yes I've been struggling with the latest Mint, 50% of the time on wakeup I just get a black screen and no responsiveness. I've had dual-screensaver issues, incoorect monitors etc. Really makes it feel hackish.

Re: macOS lock screen: “I just sent my session pass to my whole team”

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Post by drewmol »

TaylorAlexander wrote: post #80
mholt wrote: post #73

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Yes, the manner of disclosure reflects the respect one has for the software vendor. https://twitter.com/mholt6/status/935687749381775362 Responsible disclosure is more or less earned as your resources go to infinity.

An interesting comment given that Apple as closer to infinity resources than anyone else.

Indeed, infinitesimally closer ;-)

Re: macOS lock screen: “I just sent my session pass to my whole team”

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Post by zeveb »

eridius wrote: post #181
DoodleBuggy wrote: post #96

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> but I disagree on the touchbar. It’s one of the better things Apple has added recently. Strongly disagree, and I can not conceive of how it could be viewed as "better" than hardware keys. Maybe if they moved it above the FN row and we regained the hardware escape key, while making it a build to order option. Even then, I personally would have no interest in it, and neither would anyone else I know. I do not want to…

> Strongly disagree, and I can not conceive of how it could be viewed as "better" than hardware keys. I hope this is hyperbole, because it shouldn't be hard to understand. The TouchBar is absolutely an improvement. I can't remember the last time I actually used a laptop keyboard's F-keys for anything, but the TouchBar makes that space useful.

> I can't remember the last time I actually used a laptop keyboard's F-keys for anything

I use them regularly to switch consoles. MacOS supports multiple consoles, right?

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Post by zeveb »

kogepathic wrote: post #174
DigitalJack wrote: post #117

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dear God I hope not. I wouldn't mind if they made the touch pad into a screen. Probably not that useful, but it wouldn't bother me.

> I wouldn't mind if they made the touch pad into a screen. You mean like making the laptop LCD a touchscreen? Like other PC manufacturers have been doing for years?

Ah, but you see when Apple release the iTouch it'll be a whole new paradigm of human-computer interaction! Never before have people been able to control their computers by touching the screens!

… or that's what the fanboys will think.

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Post by Fnoord »

pornel wrote: post #185
floatboth wrote: post #149

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If you reused the password, yeah, instant pwnage everywhere. If your local account password isn't used anywhere else, meh, random IRC people don't have physical access to your machine :)

Unless you have remote SSH logon enabled and IRC exposes your IP address.

Depends how you authenticate with your password. You could use pubkey with or without a password. Even if you reuse the password there, even if they have your password, if they don't have your private key they can't authenticate.
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