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Re: The GNUnet System

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> GNUnet is an alternative network stack for building secure, decentralized and privacy-preserving distributed applications. Our goal is to replace the old insecure Internet protocol stack.

Sounds like a PhD thesis run amok.

This just isn't going to happen. Who are they kidding? Even the transition to IPv6 is proving agonisingly slow.

GNU really need to pick their battles more wisely.

Re: The GNUnet System

#3

> GNUnet is an alternative network stack for building secure, decentralized and privacy-preserving distributed applications. Our goal is to replace the old insecure Internet protocol stack. Sounds like a PhD thesis run amok. This just isn't going to happen. Who are they kidding? Even the transition to IPv6 is proving agonisingly slow. GNU really need to pick their battles more wisely.

Choosing file transfer as the first goal seems like a great decesion to me. File sharers are willing to adopt anything.

Re: The GNUnet System

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> GNUnet is an alternative network stack for building secure, decentralized and privacy-preserving distributed applications. Our goal is to replace the old insecure Internet protocol stack. Sounds like a PhD thesis run amok. This just isn't going to happen. Who are they kidding? Even the transition to IPv6 is proving agonisingly slow. GNU really need to pick their battles more wisely.

The speed of IPv6 adoption doesn't seem relevant as this doesn't depend on IPv6 and appears to be solving very different problems.

Re: The GNUnet System

#5

> GNUnet is an alternative network stack for building secure, decentralized and privacy-preserving distributed applications. Our goal is to replace the old insecure Internet protocol stack. Sounds like a PhD thesis run amok. This just isn't going to happen. Who are they kidding? Even the transition to IPv6 is proving agonisingly slow. GNU really need to pick their battles more wisely.

You assume GNU is a top-down organization that selects where to invest its efforts. In reality, individuals do that, only under the auspices of the GNU organization that does provide some benefits.

Re: The GNUnet System

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Is anyone knowledgeable that can tell me the difference between

IPFS, GNUnet, Zeronet, freenet or even something like i2p, tor and urbit .. as well as probably others.

Actually I know this question is asked all the time and I do know how these differ, to some extent at least, but I just don't understand why there are all these competing standards since it's all driven by the same-ish vision.

Whenever someone accomplishes this vision though it'll be a huge game changer. IPFS feels closest to it as of now .

Re: The GNUnet System

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> GNUnet is an alternative network stack for building secure, decentralized and privacy-preserving distributed applications. Our goal is to replace the old insecure Internet protocol stack. Sounds like a PhD thesis run amok. This just isn't going to happen. Who are they kidding? Even the transition to IPv6 is proving agonisingly slow. GNU really need to pick their battles more wisely.

Choosing file transfer as the first goal seems like a great decesion to me. File sharers are willing to adopt anything.

> Choosing file transfer as the first goal seems like a great decesion to me.

True. We still don't have a good way of doing this[0].

[0] https://xkcd.com/949/

Re: The GNUnet System

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> We note that outside of TCP, the client-server relationship is often described using the terms “master” and “slave”. These terms more aptly describe the social roles the client-server paradigm produces.

Best quote I've seen in a while...

Re: The GNUnet System

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post #5

> GNUnet is an alternative network stack for building secure, decentralized and privacy-preserving distributed applications. Our goal is to replace the old insecure Internet protocol stack. Sounds like a PhD thesis run amok. This just isn't going to happen. Who are they kidding? Even the transition to IPv6 is proving agonisingly slow. GNU really need to pick their battles more wisely.

You assume GNU is a top-down organization that selects where to invest its efforts. In reality, individuals do that, only under the auspices of the GNU organization that does provide some benefits.

What _are_ the benefits, other than you get to say you're a GNU project and surrounded by Saint IGNUcius's halo?

Re: The GNUnet System

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Is anyone knowledgeable that can tell me the difference between IPFS, GNUnet, Zeronet, freenet or even something like i2p, tor and urbit .. as well as probably others. Actually I know this question is asked all the time and I do know how these differ, to some extent at least, but I just don't understand why there are all these competing standards since it's all driven by the same-ish vision. Whenever someone accompli…

super tldr...

ipfs and zeronet (and dat project) are distributed file stores (think bittorrent), some have some special browsers n top that let you build applications

freenet is a distributed, secure content network.

i2p and tor are secure overlay neworks - run on top of the existing internet to provide secure connectivity - designed to obscure where traffic is going to and from.

gnunet and cjdns are also secure overlay networks but more like point to point vpns.

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