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Re: A Study of Tabbed Browsing

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Post by DrScump »

hawski wrote: post #14
Stratoscope wrote: post #12

This seems to be all about tabs or windows. Am I the only one who uses tabs and windows? I have one browser window always open with all my everyday communications: Gmail, Google Voice, Calendar, a corporate Outlook webmail account, a Discord team, etc. Then if I do something different I open a new window for it. If it's an HN break, I open a new window for the HN home page and start middle-clicking (or Ctrl/Cmd click…

I do the same on Chrome, but on Firefox there were Tab Groups. For the time being it needs to be ported to Web Extension. Firefox also does not reload all tabs on start, unlike Chrome. That's a thing that I don't like the most about Chrome. https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/tab-groups/

   Firefox also does not reload all tabs on start, unlike Chrome
That's a choosable setting in Chrome -- resume where you left off, or start fresh.

Re: A Study of Tabbed Browsing

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Post by jhanschoo »

hawski wrote: post #14
Stratoscope wrote: post #12

This seems to be all about tabs or windows. Am I the only one who uses tabs and windows? I have one browser window always open with all my everyday communications: Gmail, Google Voice, Calendar, a corporate Outlook webmail account, a Discord team, etc. Then if I do something different I open a new window for it. If it's an HN break, I open a new window for the HN home page and start middle-clicking (or Ctrl/Cmd click…

I do the same on Chrome, but on Firefox there were Tab Groups. For the time being it needs to be ported to Web Extension. Firefox also does not reload all tabs on start, unlike Chrome. That's a thing that I don't like the most about Chrome. https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/tab-groups/

Check out https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/multi-account...

Re: A Study of Tabbed Browsing

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Post by wingerlang »

amriksohata wrote: post #18

Am I the only one who doesn't group applications in Windows OS? I like to see what I have open and access it with one click rather than maintain multiple desktops and hidden apps under icons

If you're using keyboard as your sole method of changing apps and windows that doesn't matter anyway.

Re: A Study of Tabbed Browsing

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Post by Riseed »

Stratoscope wrote: post #12

This seems to be all about tabs or windows. Am I the only one who uses tabs and windows? I have one browser window always open with all my everyday communications: Gmail, Google Voice, Calendar, a corporate Outlook webmail account, a Discord team, etc. Then if I do something different I open a new window for it. If it's an HN break, I open a new window for the HN home page and start middle-clicking (or Ctrl/Cmd click…

Definitely a practical approach with Chrome.

I prefer Firefox, and instead of opening a new window for each interest/topic/task, tabs are grouped using Tree-Style Tabs [0], with only the in-focus group expanded. When done with a topic, it's easy to close (and/or bookmark) all related tabs by closing that tab tree. The new Firefox Containers [1] makes this "grouped tabs as windows" approach even better, as individual containers can even be hidden from the UI.

[0] https://github.com/piroor/treestyletab

[1] https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/multi-account...

Re: A Study of Tabbed Browsing

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Post by tbassetto »

DrScump wrote: post #21
hawski wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I do the same on Chrome, but on Firefox there were Tab Groups. For the time being it needs to be ported to Web Extension. Firefox also does not reload all tabs on start, unlike Chrome. That's a thing that I don't like the most about Chrome. https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/tab-groups/

Firefox also does not reload all tabs on start, unlike Chrome That's a choosable setting in Chrome -- resume where you left off, or start fresh.

That's not exactly what he is talking about. Both browsers can keep the list of tabs where the user left off.

But Chrome will actually load all the opened tabs, while Firefox will load only the focused tab when starting. It will load the remaining tabs only when they get the focus.

Re: A Study of Tabbed Browsing

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Post by setr »

DrScump wrote: post #21
hawski wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I do the same on Chrome, but on Firefox there were Tab Groups. For the time being it needs to be ported to Web Extension. Firefox also does not reload all tabs on start, unlike Chrome. That's a thing that I don't like the most about Chrome. https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/tab-groups/

Firefox also does not reload all tabs on start, unlike Chrome That's a choosable setting in Chrome -- resume where you left off, or start fresh.

I think he means that firefox has the tabs available to click on, but not actually loaded until you click on them. Chrome goes and opens every page when it comes back up, and ends up with a substantial (re)startup time due to it, especially by the time you're around 100 or so tabs in

Basically, firefox does lazy loading, and chrome does not

Re: A Study of Tabbed Browsing

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Post by Jaruzel »

I'm a Chrome user.

I found myself getting lost in a maze of tabs AND windows, especially when I'm researching a topic. So I decided to go 100% tabs only. I achieved this by changing all the shortcuts I use for launching Chrome to include the newtab param:

  Chrome.exe  -newtab
This forces Chrome to re-use the main Chrome window (if it's already got one open) instead of launching a new window.

It now means I'm now only lost in a maze of tabs. Right now I've got about 40 open, and the top of my browser looks like a Toblerone bar. :(

I've tried extensions that put the tabs on the side, but I don't like the wasted real-estate when you don't have that many tabs open. So I've currently settled on the AllTabs[1] extension.

Personally, I don't think the ideal solution has presented itself yet.

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[1] https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/alltabs/fffhmhcill...

Re: A Study of Tabbed Browsing

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Post by ttctciyf »

dima55 wrote: post #16
FRex wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In about:config set browser.tabs.opentabfor.middleclick to true and instead of Ctrl + Click use Shift + Click on links to open them in new windows instead of tabs. Also uncheck "Open new windows in a new tab instead" in Options in GUI or set browser.link.open_newwindow to 2 instead of 3 (it's the same thing) to make pop ups open in new windows instead of tabs. There might be an extension to remap the Ctrl/Shift short…

Thanks. I think I already did most of those. But the tab bar is still there, taking up space. And apparently I can't remap keys without an extension, or something.

> the tab bar is still there

I've been using https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/hide-tab-bar-... but it seems this isn't going to make it into the Firefox Quantum era. :(

Re: A Study of Tabbed Browsing

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Post by LandR »

dima55 wrote: post #4

Speaking of which, does anybody know how to turn off tabs in firefox, and make it instead open a new window when it would like to open a new tab? My WM already has tabs.

You can turn them off. Instructions here,

https://superuser.com/questions/1261660/firefox-quantum-ver-...

works for me: https://i.imgur.com/ZMmJlZT.png

Re: A Study of Tabbed Browsing

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Post by bovine3dom »

dima55 wrote: post #16
FRex wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In about:config set browser.tabs.opentabfor.middleclick to true and instead of Ctrl + Click use Shift + Click on links to open them in new windows instead of tabs. Also uncheck "Open new windows in a new tab instead" in Options in GUI or set browser.link.open_newwindow to 2 instead of 3 (it's the same thing) to make pop ups open in new windows instead of tabs. There might be an extension to remap the Ctrl/Shift short…

Thanks. I think I already did most of those. But the tab bar is still there, taking up space. And apparently I can't remap keys without an extension, or something.

You can disable the tab bar with a "user chrome" file such as https://github.com/cmcaine/tridactyl/blob/master/src/static/... (instructions at top of file).

Mozilla is making noises about disabling this eventually, but it works for now.

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