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Radical diet can reverse type 2 diabetes, new study shows

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Re: Radical diet can reverse type 2 diabetes, new study shows

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Type 2 diabetes is a solved problem, but pharmaceutical companies have yet to find a way to make money from a water fast, so no one tells people about it.

I don't know if it's a solved problem. It's very hard to get people to fast. It's even harder to get people to maintain a healthy lifestyle and body weight after going into remission.

Well, the problem is solved. People just don't want to take enough ownership over their health to actually do it.

Re: Radical diet can reverse type 2 diabetes, new study shows

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Type 2 diabetes is a solved problem, but pharmaceutical companies have yet to find a way to make money from a water fast, so no one tells people about it.

It's actually worse. 1/3rd of Americans (over 100 million people) have, or are well on their way to having, Type 2 Diabetes. This is one o the largest cash cows of Big Pharma. They don't want to fix it, their bottom line depends on this never being fixed, and they will do anything in their power to make sure it is never fixed.

> They don't want to fix it

Bullshit. They want to solve it in a way that doesn't involve hard behavioural (exercise, dieting) or industrial changes (nutritional) for the average person. A very rational pursuit given the obvious difficulty in the other factors being slow changing.

There is nothing wrong with offering medication and personal health analysis tools (blood glucose level monitors) which help manage an illness which affects a huge percentage of Americans.

That doesn't mean they are actively making diabetes a widespread condition.

Re: Radical diet can reverse type 2 diabetes, new study shows

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I think the headline is accurate because that is indeed what the study shows, since it compared a control group to a group on a very low calorie diet.

But I'd really like to know if this is any _more_ beneficial than more normal, gradual weight loss, like a 2000 calorie diet that gets you down to the same weight.

Re: Radical diet can reverse type 2 diabetes, new study shows

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I went on a medically-supervised, very low calorie and low carb (keto) diet after being diagnosed with diabetes. A few months and about 50lbs in, I had no signs of insulin resistance whatsoever, my A1C was down to completely normal values, and I was able to discontinue my medication entirely. That diagnosis, as hard as it was to hear, was one of the absolute best things to ever happen to me.

What does a "medically supervised" diet entail? You visit the doctor on a frequent basis and do it under their guidance? Does this exist for non-diabetic patients? I recently had weight gain for the first time of my life after reaching 30yrs of age and always being underweight. I've been meaning to look into some diet-based approaches that would be supported by science, but Googling it has always been a deluge of pse…

> Does this exist for non-diabetic patients? I recently had weight gain for the first time of my life after reaching 30yrs of age and always being underweight. I've been meaning to look into some diet-based approaches that would be supported by science, but Googling it has always been a deluge of pseudo-science.

The Keto diet(s) are pretty popular for weight loss and general health too. The subreddit [1] is pretty active and has lots of people vouching for it. I don't know how scientifically sound or safe it is, because I haven't researched it, but you might find some answers there.

[1] https://www.reddit.com/r/keto

Re: Radical diet can reverse type 2 diabetes, new study shows

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post #7

Type 2 diabetes is a solved problem, but pharmaceutical companies have yet to find a way to make money from a water fast, so no one tells people about it.

I don't know if it's a solved problem. It's very hard to get people to fast. It's even harder to get people to maintain a healthy lifestyle and body weight after going into remission.

Legalize amphetamine microdosing, perhaps? :)

Re: Radical diet can reverse type 2 diabetes, new study shows

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This isn't a radical diet. This is our natural diet. Carbs dissolve digest sugar and are unnecessary for human metabolism. If you stop poisoning yourself, you will find your health rebounds.

You aren't making sense. Take a moment to say something substantive, please.

Re: Radical diet can reverse type 2 diabetes, new study shows

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I went on a medically-supervised, very low calorie and low carb (keto) diet after being diagnosed with diabetes. A few months and about 50lbs in, I had no signs of insulin resistance whatsoever, my A1C was down to completely normal values, and I was able to discontinue my medication entirely. That diagnosis, as hard as it was to hear, was one of the absolute best things to ever happen to me.

What does a "medically supervised" diet entail? You visit the doctor on a frequent basis and do it under their guidance? Does this exist for non-diabetic patients? I recently had weight gain for the first time of my life after reaching 30yrs of age and always being underweight. I've been meaning to look into some diet-based approaches that would be supported by science, but Googling it has always been a deluge of pse…

> always being underweight.

What do you consider “underweight”?

I’m 28, 5’8”, 100lbs (that’s 1m74cm 46kg). Is that what you mean by underweight?

Also what is/was your diet like? How much exercise were/are you getting? Average caloric intake? what do you do for a living?

Re: Radical diet can reverse type 2 diabetes, new study shows

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> he diet was a formula of 825–853 calories per day for 3 to 5 months, followed by the stepped reintroduction of food over two to eight weeks. That is going to be a brutal 3-5 months. Worth it in the end though. Also, c'mon, a range of 825-853 calories? Nobody is counting calories that accurately and it would have been better to say "roughly 850 kCal per day".

You can get quite a lot of food in 850 calories. Vegetables are pretty low cal. Below is a plan I just created that is less than 850 calories

Total Cals - 836

Breakfast: 2 eggs - 156 calories

Lunch:

2 cups of spinach - 14 calories

1 cup of bell peppers - 39 calories

200 grams chicken breast - 226 calories

Snack:

1 banana - 105 calories

Dinner:

200 grams chicken breast - 226 calories

1 cup of broccoli - 31 calories

1 cup of bell peppers - 39 calories

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