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Radical diet can reverse type 2 diabetes, new study shows

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Re: Radical diet can reverse type 2 diabetes, new study shows

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Post by BlytheSchuma »

sp332 wrote: post #5
randlet wrote: post #3

> he diet was a formula of 825–853 calories per day for 3 to 5 months, followed by the stepped reintroduction of food over two to eight weeks. That is going to be a brutal 3-5 months. Worth it in the end though. Also, c'mon, a range of 825-853 calories? Nobody is counting calories that accurately and it would have been better to say "roughly 850 kCal per day".

It's tough not only to cut back the calories, but to pack needed nutrients into the few calories remaining. Over several months you could accidentally end up with a severe deficiency of something.

Soylent.

Re: Radical diet can reverse type 2 diabetes, new study shows

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Post by daeken »

I went on a medically-supervised, very low calorie and low carb (keto) diet after being diagnosed with diabetes. A few months and about 50lbs in, I had no signs of insulin resistance whatsoever, my A1C was down to completely normal values, and I was able to discontinue my medication entirely. That diagnosis, as hard as it was to hear, was one of the absolute best things to ever happen to me.

Re: Radical diet can reverse type 2 diabetes, new study shows

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Post by mtgx »

leereeves wrote: post #6
randlet wrote: post #3

> he diet was a formula of 825–853 calories per day for 3 to 5 months, followed by the stepped reintroduction of food over two to eight weeks. That is going to be a brutal 3-5 months. Worth it in the end though. Also, c'mon, a range of 825-853 calories? Nobody is counting calories that accurately and it would have been better to say "roughly 850 kCal per day".

The paper says: > ... total diet replacement (825–853 kcal/day formula diet for 3–5 months), stepped food reintroduction (2–8 weeks) ... That sounds to me like participants were given a professionally prepared formula to consume instead of food, so the calorie counts might be that accurate.

I think in the previous post that was on HN about this they were interviewing a lady that said she was eating some powder that "had all the nutrients", which sounds like something similar to Soylent.

Re: Radical diet can reverse type 2 diabetes, new study shows

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Post by xupybd »

aviv wrote: post #7

Type 2 diabetes is a solved problem, but pharmaceutical companies have yet to find a way to make money from a water fast, so no one tells people about it.

I don't know if it's a solved problem. It's very hard to get people to fast. It's even harder to get people to maintain a healthy lifestyle and body weight after going into remission.

Re: Radical diet can reverse type 2 diabetes, new study shows

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Post by Retric »

BlytheSchuma wrote: post #11
sp332 wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's tough not only to cut back the calories, but to pack needed nutrients into the few calories remaining. Over several months you could accidentally end up with a severe deficiency of something.

Soylent.

... is not designed for an 850 calorie diet.

Re: Radical diet can reverse type 2 diabetes, new study shows

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Post by dagw »

aviv wrote: post #7

Type 2 diabetes is a solved problem, but pharmaceutical companies have yet to find a way to make money from a water fast, so no one tells people about it.

As someone who has several extended family members with type 2 diabetes, I'd love to read a write up of the clinical trials supporting this.

Re: Radical diet can reverse type 2 diabetes, new study shows

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Post by toomuchtodo »

BlytheSchuma wrote: post #11
sp332 wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's tough not only to cut back the calories, but to pack needed nutrients into the few calories remaining. Over several months you could accidentally end up with a severe deficiency of something.

Soylent.

Too much sugar (check the label). More like Ketochow (protein shake, vitamins, heavy whipping cream). Each of my servings is ~500 calories. Shed three pounds per week eating it 3 meals a day, no exercise.

I miss the pancake batter taste of Soylent, don’t miss being fat.

Re: Radical diet can reverse type 2 diabetes, new study shows

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Post by DiabloD3 »

aviv wrote: post #7

Type 2 diabetes is a solved problem, but pharmaceutical companies have yet to find a way to make money from a water fast, so no one tells people about it.

It's actually worse.

1/3rd of Americans (over 100 million people) have, or are well on their way to having, Type 2 Diabetes. This is one o the largest cash cows of Big Pharma.

They don't want to fix it, their bottom line depends on this never being fixed, and they will do anything in their power to make sure it is never fixed.

Re: Radical diet can reverse type 2 diabetes, new study shows

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Post by CabSauce »

mtgx wrote: post #13
leereeves wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The paper says: > ... total diet replacement (825–853 kcal/day formula diet for 3–5 months), stepped food reintroduction (2–8 weeks) ... That sounds to me like participants were given a professionally prepared formula to consume instead of food, so the calorie counts might be that accurate.

I think in the previous post that was on HN about this they were interviewing a lady that said she was eating some powder that "had all the nutrients", which sounds like something similar to Soylent.

There's a keto version called keto chow. There are recipes online as well as pre-mixed packages to buy. I don't know that the study used this exactly, but it's the same idea.

Re: Radical diet can reverse type 2 diabetes, new study shows

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Post by dmix »

daeken wrote: post #12

I went on a medically-supervised, very low calorie and low carb (keto) diet after being diagnosed with diabetes. A few months and about 50lbs in, I had no signs of insulin resistance whatsoever, my A1C was down to completely normal values, and I was able to discontinue my medication entirely. That diagnosis, as hard as it was to hear, was one of the absolute best things to ever happen to me.

What does a "medically supervised" diet entail? You visit the doctor on a frequent basis and do it under their guidance?

Does this exist for non-diabetic patients? I recently had weight gain for the first time of my life after reaching 30yrs of age and always being underweight. I've been meaning to look into some diet-based approaches that would be supported by science, but Googling it has always been a deluge of pseudo-science.

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