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Bitcoin (BTC) is up by +22% in a single day, valued at over $14,600

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Re: Bitcoin (BTC) is up by +22% in a single day, valued at over $14,600

#81
post #15

This is a farce. There's only been negative news today and yet prices jump higher than ever. There's no conceivable way this doesn't end badly. I guess people are gambling on being lucky enough to exit before then. Edit: removed unnecessary hostility. If you have money to spare on a high risk gamble like this then by all means. But in general there's just no way everyone jumping in is fully aware of the risks.

It's the first in a new asset class that provides things that never existed before, mainly being the ability to quickly transact value over great geographic distances and national borders with zero interference from third parties. The value of that is extremely underestimated by most people, and shouldn't be so hard to grasp. Analogous examples are the Internet and Google, which provided very straightforward and simp…

> quickly transact value

Well now it takes hundreds of minutes, in which time the value of your bitcoin has changed, given its current volatility.

Re: Bitcoin (BTC) is up by +22% in a single day, valued at over $14,600

#82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's the first in a new asset class that provides things that never existed before, mainly being the ability to quickly transact value over great geographic distances and national borders with zero interference from third parties. The value of that is extremely underestimated by most people, and shouldn't be so hard to grasp. Analogous examples are the Internet and Google, which provided very straightforward and simp…

> quickly transact value Well now it takes hundreds of minutes, in which time the value of your bitcoin has changed, given its current volatility.

I remember a time when my modem had to dial up to internet, and everything was slow. And I remember that whatever you searched on google, there was at least 1 porn result in the top 10. I also remember when electric cars were not nearly as good as gasoline cars.

Technology advances. If you're stuck looking at what is inferior now, you will not see what is possible in the next few years.

You are talking about a technical problem, which can be fixed.

Re: Bitcoin (BTC) is up by +22% in a single day, valued at over $14,600

#83
post #27

It's obvious to nearly everyone that this is the world's biggest pump-and-dump scam. Sentiment on HN, Twitter and the financial press is nearly unanimously negative. Co-workers and family members are convinced this will end in tears for the foolish speculators. But one thing bugs me about all this. Historically, bubbles burst after long-time critics finally capitulate. Pyramids and Ponzis collapse when most people ha…

People are also seeing their co-workers and families asking about how to "invest" in Bitcoins. So the old story about Joe Kennedy and the shoe shine boy applies too? The saying " You know it's time to sell when shoeshine boys give you stock tips. This bull market is over."

Stocks are for the elite, Bitcoin is for the masses.

Re: Bitcoin (BTC) is up by +22% in a single day, valued at over $14,600

#84
post #59

What is too high and what is too low in Bitcoin world and how do people come up with those values? If people were keeping track of Satoshis (0.00014 USD/Satoshi) would they also think it is expensive?

The only way to tell is look at the market capitalization (see https://coinmarketcap.com/)

To compare, if Bitcoin reaches $400.000 per bitcoin, the total value of all Bicoins will be the same as the total value of all gold.

Re: Bitcoin (BTC) is up by +22% in a single day, valued at over $14,600

#85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> quickly transact value Well now it takes hundreds of minutes, in which time the value of your bitcoin has changed, given its current volatility.

I remember a time when my modem had to dial up to internet, and everything was slow. And I remember that whatever you searched on google, there was at least 1 porn result in the top 10. I also remember when electric cars were not nearly as good as gasoline cars. Technology advances. If you're stuck looking at what is inferior now, you will not see what is possible in the next few years. You are talking about a techni…

Not all technical problems can be fixed.

Re: Bitcoin (BTC) is up by +22% in a single day, valued at over $14,600

#86
post #27

It's obvious to nearly everyone that this is the world's biggest pump-and-dump scam. Sentiment on HN, Twitter and the financial press is nearly unanimously negative. Co-workers and family members are convinced this will end in tears for the foolish speculators. But one thing bugs me about all this. Historically, bubbles burst after long-time critics finally capitulate. Pyramids and Ponzis collapse when most people ha…

I'm pretty sure everyone knows that most bubbles are bubbles in advance. People don't invest because they think it won't crash, they invest because it is definitely going up and they hope they can cash out before it does.

Re: Bitcoin (BTC) is up by +22% in a single day, valued at over $14,600

#87

Seems like a significant portion of the capital is coming from Asia, mainly South Korea, with just Bithumb BTC/KRW trades making almost 11% of today's volume. https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/bitcoin/#markets

I'm in Seoul as we speak, and it's an insane mania here. It has absolutely nothing to do with North Korea. If Koreans want to keep money safe, they can, for example, buy US stocks and bonds. They can buy US Treasuries. Bitcoin they buy out of greed and fear of missing out. Korea is the land of the trend, of bangdwagonning. I feel bad for all of the people who are going to be burned. I saw an ad on YouTube, in Korean:…

Sooo... how much savings South Korea has and how it compares to how much money was invested in bitcoin so far? I other words, what happens with the price in South Korea will put half of their savings in bitcoin?

Re: Bitcoin (BTC) is up by +22% in a single day, valued at over $14,600

#88
post #63

Could we stop turning HN into a Bitcoin ticker? It feels like every day we get a "Bitcoin reaches $X" post and it's getting old. It's certainly not newsworthy. If there's something concrete that _causes_ Bitcoin to move majorly, I'd be happy to see that but if I just want to watch the price, I'll look at an actual Bitcoin ticker.

... Or maybe they should just pin this news to the top od HN because price of bitcoin is sort of developing story.

Re: Bitcoin (BTC) is up by +22% in a single day, valued at over $14,600

#89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I remember a time when my modem had to dial up to internet, and everything was slow. And I remember that whatever you searched on google, there was at least 1 porn result in the top 10. I also remember when electric cars were not nearly as good as gasoline cars. Technology advances. If you're stuck looking at what is inferior now, you will not see what is possible in the next few years. You are talking about a techni…

Not all technical problems can be fixed.

Sure but that's a general statement not applicable to the current situation. There are already known technical solutions to the scaling problem. The issue is social, i.e. getting everyone to agree to a protocol upgrade, not technical.

Re: Bitcoin (BTC) is up by +22% in a single day, valued at over $14,600

#90
post #51

For those who want to sell but not cash out in fiat (because on exchanges such paperwork can take over a week), what's the easiest stable thing to exchange your BTC for?

You can easily cash out on localbitcoins at least in Europe using SEPA.
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