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Re: If your iOS 11 device unexpectedly restarts repeatedly on or after December 2

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Post by gurkendoktor » Tue, Dec 05, 2017, 12:35 PM UTC

microtonal wrote: post #119

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Hah. I can't help but wonder if Apple has started mindlessly implementing contemporary "software engineering best practices" (yuck): - Everything must be Scrum or a similar sprint system: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8836734 - Move to an open office layout to foster collaboration: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14962663 - Kick out high-performing "heroes" like Scott Forstall - Instead, build teams of me…

It may also have to do something with scope. In 2000-~2010 Apple was basically and iPod + UNIX desktop company. The iPods did not spectacularly until the iPod Touch/iPhone, OS X had a relatively narrow scope: a UNIX system supporting a small hardware range, with a nice modern display server, and good object-oriented frameworks. In the last years their scope has expanded immensely, both hardware-wise (iPhone, iPad, Ap…

I agree 100%. But that "only" explains why we are seeing so many bugs, not why Apple would possibly settle for average engineers (which is scary if true).

> let the third-party ecosystem focus on applications

I'm worried that this is exactly what Apple tried to do with tvOS, and since it hasn't worked out (Amazon is still MIA), they're now going to spread themselves even thinner by producing content and related apps themselves.

Re: If your iOS 11 device unexpectedly restarts repeatedly on or after December 2

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Post by lostlogin » Tue, Dec 05, 2017, 5:15 PM UTC

tspike wrote: post #133

lostlogin wrote: post #101

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iPhone 5s does. Not too big, not too small. RIP. Reaching the top corner on this 8 is horrible and I’m large, tall person.

Why didn't you get an SE instead?

When you keep your phone for 4 years each time, you need to get one with good specs, and I’m not certain that the SE is going to last as long as an 8. The camera is a huge factor too.

Re: If your iOS 11 device unexpectedly restarts repeatedly on or after December 2

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Post by time0ut » Wed, Dec 06, 2017, 12:41 AM UTC

jacksmith21006 wrote: post #158

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I'd been an Apple fan and happy iPhone user for ~8 years until I updated my iPhone 6 Plus to iOS 11. My phone went from snappy to crappy. Apple support told me I couldn't go back to iOS 10, so I figured it was time to buy a new phone. My Pixel 2 came Friday.

My Pixel 2 XL comes tomorrow! Shipped a week early.

Nice! I am very happy with mine.

Re: If your iOS 11 device unexpectedly restarts repeatedly on or after December 2

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Post by runeb » Thu, Dec 07, 2017, 12:26 PM UTC

aplummer wrote: post #20

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Did it twice! Lost data too. Apples software quality has taken a very noticeable dive the last year or two. Being an iOS developer used to be very comfortable. It’s now become a real pain in many ways. Xcode being the worst.

Xcode 9 is definitely an area where I feel like it’s going in the right direction.

Xcode 9 promised a lot, but for me it has been a big disappointment. SourceKitService still ends up in an endless loop allocating memory and needs to be kill -9'd every 10 minutes. Switching git branches with a storyboard open often trips up Xcode and just now crashed my Mac completely. Apple software quality is not what it used to be.

Re: If your iOS 11 device unexpectedly restarts repeatedly on or after December 2

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Post by btlr » Sat, Dec 09, 2017, 8:10 PM UTC

tatersolid wrote: post #151

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Curious to know more about your claim that rewriting stuff in Swift causes a lot of bugs - got any sources on that?

Rewriting any mostly-working code in any language—even the exact same language —causes bugs. It’s been that way since the 1960s. It “has to be done” sometimes, but put that day off as long as possible.

That makes sense I suppose.