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Re: Ask HN: Who hires mathematicians?

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From my experience, I would offer the generalization that nobody hires mathematicians. Mathematics in society is more of a skill set than a professional title. The most challenging or cutting edge math that could be commonly used is the LINEST() function in Excel. A person who is good at math also has a lot of great skills to offer a company, it is just selling those features and not the calculus. I started out as a…

This is my sentiment as well. I have BS in math and MS in applied math and now work as a data analyst. Problem solving and abstracting problems to general properties and attributes are the most worthwhile skills that my math education has provided me, at least as marketable skills. I learned R and python on my own and no doubt this has been a huge help in finding jobs, and has allowed me to be closer to the tech at my jobs versus a more traditional excel based biz analyst role. This has allowed me to learn a lot more on the job, like being able to directly touch dbs, create my own ETLs, learn AWS products, etc.

You (OP) may take for granted the way that your math education shaped your brain to think about things. Don't. This mode of thinking is one of your biggest assets that employers are after.

Re: Ask HN: Who hires mathematicians?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have a Bs in applied mathematics and I'm a software engineer. I think that mathematicians make incredible software engineers (not me necessarily ) if they do two things, take some basic cs classes, get co-ops/internships programming. I faced a _lot_ of bias when getting into the industry because people didn't want to train me to program or thought I'd be too weak of a software engineer, etc... and I believe having…

I'd actually be interested in your experience. Personally I have a degree in Physics. Only two classes in programming (majorly self taught) and work in simulations. How does the software engineering field see people like me? I've applied to programming jobs in the past and just never knew if I was under qualified, didn't stand out, or just slipped through the cracks in the large amounts of applications places get. An…

I did a double major, math and physics. I was basically self-taught with respect to computers (one CS class on my transcript). I got hired as a programmer by a lady with a Master's in math, who was largely self-taught with respect to computers. That first hire is all it takes - after that, I had experience.

I graduated in 1984, though, so this may not be very applicable to the current situation...

Re: Ask HN: Who hires mathematicians?

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From my experience, I would offer the generalization that nobody hires mathematicians. Mathematics in society is more of a skill set than a professional title. The most challenging or cutting edge math that could be commonly used is the LINEST() function in Excel. A person who is good at math also has a lot of great skills to offer a company, it is just selling those features and not the calculus. I started out as a…

What is the difference between mech and industrial?

Re: Ask HN: Who hires mathematicians?

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I have a PhD in maths (applied, though most of my undergraduate was pure), and lectured for a couple of years before moving to a bigger city and deciding to break out of the academic hamster wheel. My wife already had a job secured, so I had the opportunity to be a little patient. This really paid off. I considered many of the types of jobs mentioned by others. Analyst / tech-consultant jobs didn't seem technically i…

That's interesting, my PhD is in an engineering field and projects have included a lot of what you mentioned ('graph theory, markov chains, ... cluster analysis and signal processing'...). I just went through a job search and couldn't find anyone very interested in these skills, so I'm back in another postdoc. Any advice on companies/industries specific to those types of methods?

Re: Ask HN: Who hires mathematicians?

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One piece of advice I would give you is to think about where your particular area of focus in math overlaps with CS, how you could apply that towards a real world problem / situation and how you could tailor your education towards that goal. People in Math / ML / Stats with the chops to translate their research into production quality code and systems are in huge demand. PS, we are hiring data scientists at Wheelhouse! https://boards.greenhouse.io/wheelhouse/jobs/811845

Re: Ask HN: Who hires mathematicians?

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I know several top-level mathematicians (International Math Olympiad medalists) and not all of them are working as Quants. Some of them compose music, some of them are working as machine learning experts, VC funds, etc. They may be slight outliers but it's possible to do whatever you want as long as you posses the intellect and drive. I think Mathematics definitely help with developing your logic skills that are applicable to anything.

Re: Ask HN: Who hires mathematicians?

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The NSA is allegedly the biggest employer of mathematicians in the US, and possibly the world -- which is troubling, considering how ethically questionable their work is.

As opposed to say working to develop the software for those poker machines aka the crack cocaine of gambling. Even my (Scary)Great Great Uncle who was an off course book maker pre WW2 in Birmingham might blanch at that.

And yes it does make watching peaky blinders interesting :-)

Re: Ask HN: Who hires mathematicians?

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NSA is great for mathematicians, but competition is tough. The best way to get in as a co-op early in your college years, since it takes a year to get a clearance.

really that long? I though the NSA / CIA would expedite clearance.

So if you want to intern at the NSA do you apply a year in advance? maybe Matt Cutts knows

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