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Google Is Pulling YouTube Off the Fire TV and Echo Show

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Re: Google Is Pulling YouTube Off the Fire TV and Echo Show

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Post by joshuamorton »

mcintyre1994 wrote: post #26
organsnyder wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What issues did you encounter? And how can you call a $35 device "expensive"?

My brother took his to uni and couldn't log into the Wifi - I assume he has to enter uni credentials for it and the Chromecast doesn't support that Wifi authentication model.

As a partial aside, I'm going to gloat about how incredible my alma mater's networking infrastructure and usability is.

Tell me how long it takes you to find explicit instructions on connecting a chromecast from this site[1]. I think most schools are just incredibly bad at managing their network infrastructure, and its really sad.

[1]: http://www.wrecktechs.gatech.edu/

Re: Google Is Pulling YouTube Off the Fire TV and Echo Show

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Post by nolok »

dazc wrote: post #17
RIMR wrote: post #9

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Amazon removing the Chromecast from their store was, if anything, verification at the Fire TV was not a product that could succeed on its own. I love my Chromecast and I buy new models directly from Google, because no matter what Amazon says I know the difference between Google's product, and Amazon's copycat version of it.

Well, for me at least, amazon's copycat worked first time out of the box. Chromecast, alas, turned out to be an expensive plastic brick.

No offense but I bought a lot of chromecast and even my most tech inept family users have "moved to the tech age" with it and never bother me to get it working.

I'm sure amazon thingy works just as well, but your trouble with it are more anecdotal than the rules.

Re: Google Is Pulling YouTube Off the Fire TV and Echo Show

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Post by lixardz »

syshum wrote: post #29
lixardz wrote: post #25

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roku is freaking terrible. have you even used one? compared to the seamlessness that chromecast plus the price, why would you use anything else.

>>seamlessness that chromecast how is it seamless, I want a independent device to watch videos on, not a device that have to connect with my phone, tablet or pc then "cast" video to it. I want a self contained video streaming device with its own physical remote, processor and OS that does not need anything else but a internet connection Roku and FireTV are different classes of Devices than a ChromeCast

you're in like .01% of the population that wants that. the menu's and remote with the roku are horrendous, everything about a roku is terrible. You have log into an account within the 'roku os'. you also have to have the remote on you. I almost always have my phone on me. I'm already signed into all the apps that i want, with a much easier to use keyboard for searching. i tap a button on my screen and it's playing on my tv. The entire experience is 'seamless' just because you like to have 47 extra steps to watch a video doesn't mean that anyone else would like that. Roku is for people who don't know better or are technologically challenged. I mean, if you compared it to the appletv Roku is probably good?

Re: Google Is Pulling YouTube Off the Fire TV and Echo Show

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Post by nolok »

bitsoda wrote: post #6

You know what, good for Google. I hate to sound like a child, but Amazon fired the first salvo by dropping the Chromecast a few years back. This move only seems fair.

They fired the second shot when they refused to make anything to stream from a kindle fire to a chromecast. That's literally a "amazon media playing thingy" and it can't stream to the market leader casting device.

I love competition but this to me is a case of "ohh, screw that, just make whatever work with whatever"

Re: Google Is Pulling YouTube Off the Fire TV and Echo Show

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Post by ams6110 »

mcintyre1994 wrote: post #26
organsnyder wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What issues did you encounter? And how can you call a $35 device "expensive"?

My brother took his to uni and couldn't log into the Wifi - I assume he has to enter uni credentials for it and the Chromecast doesn't support that Wifi authentication model.

He probably needs to register the mac address with the university dhcp service so that it can get a routable IP address.

University networks used to be pretty wide open but the days where you could just plug into any available Ethernet socket or hop on the wifi anonymously are gone.

Re: Google Is Pulling YouTube Off the Fire TV and Echo Show

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Post by syshum »

lixardz wrote: post #44
syshum wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>>seamlessness that chromecast how is it seamless, I want a independent device to watch videos on, not a device that have to connect with my phone, tablet or pc then "cast" video to it. I want a self contained video streaming device with its own physical remote, processor and OS that does not need anything else but a internet connection Roku and FireTV are different classes of Devices than a ChromeCast

you're in like .01% of the population that wants that. the menu's and remote with the roku are horrendous, everything about a roku is terrible. You have log into an account within the 'roku os'. you also have to have the remote on you. I almost always have my phone on me. I'm already signed into all the apps that i want, with a much easier to use keyboard for searching. i tap a button on my screen and it's playing on…

No expierance with the Roku, I have several FireTV's

I also have my phone on me, I still have no desire to use it to control the FireTV when I can just use the arrow keys on the remote, select the video and press play.

if I want to search i will use an actual computer and create a playlist or use the 'watch later" flag on youtube and play from that list on the firetv...

it is not "47 steps" I find using the phone to be cumbersome and battery draining

ohh and I doubt I am in the .01% of normal consumers that want that. I maybe in the .01% of Silicon Valley type Tech people that want that. But your every day consumer, every day moms, dads, grandpa's etc want exactly what I describe, which is why the FireTV is so successful

Re: Google Is Pulling YouTube Off the Fire TV and Echo Show

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Post by syshum »

kenning wrote: post #36
syshum wrote: post #29

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>>seamlessness that chromecast how is it seamless, I want a independent device to watch videos on, not a device that have to connect with my phone, tablet or pc then "cast" video to it. I want a self contained video streaming device with its own physical remote, processor and OS that does not need anything else but a internet connection Roku and FireTV are different classes of Devices than a ChromeCast

The cool thing about chromecast is that you can drag and drop a video file into chrome and it will play on your tv. I don't want to see ads on youtube, so instead of using the built in chromecast support i just stream the window to my tv with ublock origin installed -- no ads. That's actually all i want, a wireless hdmi cable. But I'm in a tiny minority.

>>I don't want to see ads on youtube

That is what a PiHole is for ;)

Re: Google Is Pulling YouTube Off the Fire TV and Echo Show

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Post by deong »

lixardz wrote: post #44
syshum wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>>seamlessness that chromecast how is it seamless, I want a independent device to watch videos on, not a device that have to connect with my phone, tablet or pc then "cast" video to it. I want a self contained video streaming device with its own physical remote, processor and OS that does not need anything else but a internet connection Roku and FireTV are different classes of Devices than a ChromeCast

you're in like .01% of the population that wants that. the menu's and remote with the roku are horrendous, everything about a roku is terrible. You have log into an account within the 'roku os'. you also have to have the remote on you. I almost always have my phone on me. I'm already signed into all the apps that i want, with a much easier to use keyboard for searching. i tap a button on my screen and it's playing on…

I'm pretty technically savvy, and I almost never want to use my phone as a remote control. Yes, it's almost always with me, but it has to do a lot of stuff. A Roku remote has a big "Netflix" button on it. I press that button. If my phone had a big Netflix button on it, it would be in the way of dealing with Email, texts from my wife, my work calendar, getting the weather, showing me traffic, etc.

I always have my car keys handy too, but if I had to tap out morse code on my key fob to watch a Seinfeld rerun, I'd kill a hobo just to feel something again. A dedicated device is sometimes far preferable than a general one.

Re: Google Is Pulling YouTube Off the Fire TV and Echo Show

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Post by Ajedi32 »

bitsoda wrote: post #6

You know what, good for Google. I hate to sound like a child, but Amazon fired the first salvo by dropping the Chromecast a few years back. This move only seems fair.

Yeah, normally I'd say two wrongs don't make a right, but if this move manages to convince Amazon to finally support Amazon Video on Chromecast, maybe it's worth it.

Though on the other hand, this could just as easily result in a long-term standoff.

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