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Apple is sharing your facial wireframe with apps

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Re: Apple is sharing your facial wireframe with apps

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You know how some F2P games will allow you to watch video ads in order to e.g. earn extra in-game currency, activate a point multiplier, etc? As it stands, you can start one of these ads and then turn your phone upside down, or look away. How long until an advertising provider makes use of the attention API and makes it so that you can't look away? Seems bleak.

I'd like to see them try really. I am pretty sure that people would just not play these kind of games as it would be super annoying.

Re: Apple is sharing your facial wireframe with apps

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post #128

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Well that's not what I was sold at the keynote. Has this been verified? I thought my face was being scanned with 30k dots and all that.

There's a big difference between what Apple is using to perform FaceID scans and the APIs it exposes to developers. Apple has historically been very cautious about the access it gives to developers, especially where matters of privacy are concerned.

Ahh. I overreacted. This must be it.

Re: Apple is sharing your facial wireframe with apps

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post #121

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I don't know if I'm an "apologist" for anything, but what you're describing has been the case for decades by now; it's an inherent property of cell phone networks. By 2005 we already all carried personally identifiable devices with microphones, geolocation, and cameras and a persistent connection to a network.

> what you're describing has been the case for decades by now; Does that make it even the tiniest bit more acceptable, or does that mean it's really high time to stop it? Being an apologist kind of hinges on that, and no need to put anything in quotes.

"People should stop carrying mobile phones" is an interesting proposition, but a fairly tangential one.

Re: Apple is sharing your facial wireframe with apps

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post #118

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A skilled human with a decent tool can also make a pretty good 3D model from one face image in less than 5 minutes. https://youtu.be/Eq0tTzCwXNI

That is not a 3d model, much less a pretty good one.

That is a wireframe but Blender can turn a wireframe into a mesh and vice versa as the video title states.

Re: Apple is sharing your facial wireframe with apps

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post #29

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Haha, cool! Hi :) Given the small size of the laser projector, I imagine natural movement from the phone being hand-held would result in significant displacement of the projected dots over a 1s interval? Have you tried integrating the 15 frames to see what it looks like?

I haven't yet. We submitted a game about 3 weeks ago using front-facing ARKit as its core game mechanic and it hasn't been approved by Apple yet. I'm waiting to see if they're going to allow us to use the new technology in novel ways or not before I invest a lot more time in it.

hello, my question is completely off-topic, but here I go.

you are waiting for the App Store to approve your new game, right?

Re: Apple is sharing your facial wireframe with apps

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> I'm honestly less worried about Apple than others. That's a pretty low bar. Yes, Apple at least gives lip service to security which other companies don't even bother to do, but Apple has had some pretty major security screwups lately (three in the last few weeks). You might be less worried about Apple than the competition, but you'd do well to be somewhat worried about them nonetheless.

Two other issues I'm worried about with iOS: - MAC address tracking (RTS packets thrwart MAC randomization[0], not immediately clear if WiFi is fully off[1]) - All-or-nothing access to photos on the phone (append-only for apps that request it) Discord in particular is bad for the photo permission, as I don't trust China's Tencent with access to all the photos on my phone (which can include lots of frequent location i…

That's actually a very good point about the frequent location information (or just location metadata in general). I've never thought about it, but I guess giving an app access to my photos gives them full access to the location metadata, and would allow them to put together a pretty accurate model of where I've been and where I live.

Re: Apple is sharing your facial wireframe with apps

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That is not a 3d model, much less a pretty good one.

That is a wireframe but Blender can turn a wireframe into a mesh and vice versa as the video title states.

Can it really? It thought he intended to use this as a reference when (manually) doing the actual modelling.

Re: Apple is sharing your facial wireframe with apps

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post #133

Time to switch to Android.

Situation is quite bad for all smartphones. But for Android there is at least f-droid.org repository made of apps automatically compiled from the source code. I prefer using these apps. And the fact you can install what you want. In iOS you are locked into a censored AppStore and have to pay to get a certificate to run your own app. There is also a small chance for someone to develop an Android phone with fully open…

Not 100% true. On iOS you can install your own apps from Xcode for free, you have to pay the $100/year developer fee to distribute it on the app store.

Re: Apple is sharing your facial wireframe with apps

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