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Re: My offer numbers from big companies

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Post by krolley »

NiklasMort wrote: post #120

I just left a company that got aquired by a big US security company, I was offered a 140k bonus (50/50 cash/stock, under the condition of staying min. 2 y) if I stay (because they knew I was probably leaving). The Bonus was several times more than my annual salary (Eastern Europe). Despite all the day dreaming about the numbers I declined and left. Why? Because after 2 years there I was already burned out, had no tim…

Couldn't you have negotiated that in your offer e.g. I'll take the 140k bonus but my phone is off from 6pm to 8am, only covering night shift on certain days etc. If they say no that's OK, but if they say yes, great.

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Post by sillysaurus3 »

nerflad wrote: post #155

I'm in the southeast. 24, self-taught, no degree (I was able to make it through Triplebyte, though I'm not persuaded that actually means anything). 2009-2015 IT/helpdesk/sysadmin, and 2015-2017 more dev/devops, all with a local medium (~350 employee) retail-ish business that grosses about $30m annually if I had to guess. I quit this year for a number of reasons (depression), but I mainly worked on automation. A colle…

Switch companies more frequently. Each time you do, you'll make more.

The trick is, you're worth whatever the market is willing to pay. But the only way to find out is to go out on the market. Most people stick with the same job for years, meaning they only check their worth a few times. Hence low salaries.

Re: My offer numbers from big companies

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Post by koevet »

krolley wrote: post #186
koevet wrote: post #123

These numbers should be taken with a grain of salt. I live in Zurich, Switzerland and I have a similar salary (~200K) but the high cost of living (which, I assume, is similar if not lower than the Bay Area) make my salary comparable to an "ok" salary in other European countries. Just to give you an idea: the overall cost of school + a nanny for 2 kids under 6 is around 70K year in Zurich. As other have mentioned, the…

Also living in Switzerland. I have to comment that ~200K is not "normal" salary here either. To be fair, most people also don't have a nanny for their kids (or more than 1 as you do), and do not pay for private school. Average salary for a Software Dev with >10 years experience in Zurich is somewhere around 130k - 150k.

There are no public Kinderkrippe in Zurich. If your kids are under 5, the only option is a private kita - and if live in Zurich you should know how pricey they are.

In any case, my point wasn't about "me". I was trying to highlight the fact that in certain places, a high salary is driven by other factors, such as higher-than-average cost of life, low security (Saudi Arabia), etc.

Re: My offer numbers from big companies

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Post by corruptbytes »

nerflad wrote: post #155

I'm in the southeast. 24, self-taught, no degree (I was able to make it through Triplebyte, though I'm not persuaded that actually means anything). 2009-2015 IT/helpdesk/sysadmin, and 2015-2017 more dev/devops, all with a local medium (~350 employee) retail-ish business that grosses about $30m annually if I had to guess. I quit this year for a number of reasons (depression), but I mainly worked on automation. A colle…

I think location matters the most

Re: My offer numbers from big companies

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Post by aroundtown »

electrograv wrote: post #66
aroundtown wrote: post #62

Well this makes me feel terrible... Your sign on was probably for more than I've made in my professional career. My first job after graduating 10 years ago was for 45k per year. I have had an awful lot of bad luck since graduating and have yet to be paid more than that since. Every job I've had paid progressively less, always took them cause I needed the job. My last programming job paid $14 an hour. Can anyone offer…

Regionally: The wealthiest companies pay the highest salaries. In the tech world, those live on the west coast or the east coast. Texas probably isn’t going to give you much room to grow in the tech world. Some of it is regional, and some of it will depend on what you do. The best salaries will go to the most valuable roles, so you may need to find out how to develop a specialty to make your work more valuable. $14/h…

I understand that Texas isn't going to pay well, I'm anchored to a wife who has a PhD with extremely limited opportunities that pay decent. So here I am.

The $14 was way below market, some web work, some IT, and some updating a program that I had built for them a year earlier. I needed the cash and it beat flipping burgers or working retail. The place was interesting, people did Bio-Research. I was trying to get my foot in the door and get a better job with them. About that time my wife took a job that brought us back to Texas, outside of San Antonio.

Re: My offer numbers from big companies

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Post by akhilcacharya »

nerflad wrote: post #155

I'm in the southeast. 24, self-taught, no degree (I was able to make it through Triplebyte, though I'm not persuaded that actually means anything). 2009-2015 IT/helpdesk/sysadmin, and 2015-2017 more dev/devops, all with a local medium (~350 employee) retail-ish business that grosses about $30m annually if I had to guess. I quit this year for a number of reasons (depression), but I mainly worked on automation. A colle…

A friend of mine dropped out of CC with a 1.9 at the age of 20. During/after he did 4 internships at top-tier companies making $8-9k a month in each one.

Now he’s choosing between FB, Google, Microsoft, a few other unicorns, and a tiny startup all with offers over $160k TC.

He’s incredibly smart, no question, but at the end of the day it’s all a game. For him, all it took was his first internship at a top-tier company to land future interviews and months of practice to get offers.

Re: My offer numbers from big companies

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Post by woolvalley »

King-Aaron wrote: post #5

Jesus christ, $50k as a sign on bonus. I haven't seen anything like that in Aus for that sort of experience.

Your rent for a 1 bedroom is $2800-3500/month to start tho. Total tax rate around %33, and your marginal tax rate is ~%40.

If your interested, you could apply to these companies directly on their website. You would probably get a reply. Same with many startups. Go practice a whole bunch of leetcode questions and cracking the coding interview beforehand although.

Re: My offer numbers from big companies

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Post by Redoubts »

hiram112 wrote: post #196
TamDenholm wrote: post #150

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thank you to those that replied.

So that $100k RSU you see in the list should not be considered yearly, but instead something like 25% of it per year?

The author claims

> figures above are ANNUAL.

But if he is mistaken on the RSU part, then people might find these offers easier to understand. (-e- but the only thing typically not annual in these numbers is the RSU, so I don't think that mistake is likely)

Re: My offer numbers from big companies

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Post by corruptbytes »

aroundtown wrote: post #62

Well this makes me feel terrible... Your sign on was probably for more than I've made in my professional career. My first job after graduating 10 years ago was for 45k per year. I have had an awful lot of bad luck since graduating and have yet to be paid more than that since. Every job I've had paid progressively less, always took them cause I needed the job. My last programming job paid $14 an hour. Can anyone offer…

$14 is really low for programming in TX. Interns in (Houston/Dallas/Austin) get paid more than that. I think you just to look what's actually there, especially in the heath and energy business.

Re: My offer numbers from big companies

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Post by wwalser »

richardknop wrote: post #164
wwalser wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The entry fee for a referral is striking up a single conversation at a conference. If someone from a big tech company is speaking at a conference, the fact that they are speaking isn't the primary reason for being present. They are there to recruit.

Just having a chat with someone at a conference is often not enough to get a referral tbh. I'd assume for a referral you need to know a person at least reasonably well, i.e. you know each other on first name basis and have been out for a beer or worked together on some open source project or something like that. I don't believe you can just walk to a person at a conference, talk to them to 15 minutes and then ask for…

I was a bit brief on tactics. Yes. Don't just ask for a referral.

Tactics:

Understand that they are there to recruit. This should give you confidence. This isn't some weird game, you're not manipulating or tricking them. They are here for these conversations. Some soft-skill tactics don't work for everyone. If some/none of the below materializes or isn't your thing, it's alway okay to ask. "Are you doing any recruiting while in town? I'm interested in talking to someone at NeatCo."

If you can speak at the conference, that is preferable. If not, walking up and saying hi will work but it should involve you asking a well-informed question about the thing they are speaking about. Spend an hour before the conference researching their topic and come with something in mind: What lead company X to create Y? If someone were motivated, could they create ${interesting but not crazy new feature/thing} using Y?

If you don't have a question, just talk about the content of the talk. Tell them what you thought.

The person speaking on behalf of NeatCo will often bring another person with them. The speaker is the domain expert, the other person will often be someone capable of hiring. If they bring a +1, talk to that person as well.

The goal of your chat is to get any of: dinner invite, next-day coffee, straight up ad-hoc interview.

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