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Nope definitely not fishy. I'm 2 years out of college and $180k salary + 250k RSU. SF is expensive these days. And also remember California grabs 9% of your income so it goes down by a lot
Also, remember there are tax brackets. So you won’t be taxed at 9% for all your salary. If you made 180k, your CA tax rate is 7.53%.
My offer numbers from big companies
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#162These numbers should be taken with a grain of salt. I live in Zurich, Switzerland and I have a similar salary (~200K) but the high cost of living (which, I assume, is similar if not lower than the Bay Area) make my salary comparable to an "ok" salary in other European countries. Just to give you an idea: the overall cost of school + a nanny for 2 kids under 6 is around 70K year in Zurich. As other have mentioned, the…
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#163Damn... I guess anyone smart should just stop complaining and find a way into the big co.s... Living in midwest this is insane... :) ...congrats....
You also need to think about what you'd lose if you were to work for a big company. I do not know your current company, so maybe there is nothing to lose.
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This is one of the things that really sucks about the industry. It is a new "boy's club", and if you know people in the club then the barrier to entry is easier (if you can code at a reasonable capacity).
The entry fee for a referral is striking up a single conversation at a conference. If someone from a big tech company is speaking at a conference, the fact that they are speaking isn't the primary reason for being present. They are there to recruit.
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#165These seem pretty standard for 2 years experience?
What % of developers can get these kinds of offers? Do you need Ivy League? Insane algorithm / whiteboard testing prowess? A hot company in those 2 years of experience?
Without these, one faces a number of challenges:
- You need to get your resume looked at somehow
- It's well-known that when it comes to programming and system design, "Real recognize real"
- You need a wide variety of skills beyond programming and system design: social skills (sometimes moreso than anything else), sometimes classic CS search/sorting/optimization techniques
- They might realize they need someone with different specializations
- You might remind the interviewer of someone they dislike
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#166I live in the UK, to me these numbers are insane. How are these salaries at that work experience possible? Is the pay increase from then on slow? Are these salaries sustainable for the industry long term? I know experienced professionals who would be considered successful in the UK who finish their careers nowhere near this level of salary (not programmers but certainly engineers). I’m astounded.
Consider that it might be the reverse. Why are we paid so low? How come companies extract so much profit from UK developers? Can businesses get away with being much less efficient with dev resources around the world vs. USA?
They can't afford to pay more. They offer bad salaries, they get people with low productivity and low reward expectations. The people running the company have low expectations of their engineers and the whole sorry mess just stumbles along barely holding its head above water.
(I have been contracting in the south-east these last 5 years, I've seen quite a few of these places)
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In the UK my wife and I loose 25-30% of our pay checks to tax and national insurance and I would imagine the cost of living in the UK is comparable to the US. Our household income is considered pretty high in the UK as well so it’s not that we are badly paid in UK terms
What kind of healthcare facilities do you get from the government?
For people with low income there is "zorgtoeslag", they get sponsoring from the government.
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#168True, if big. Anyone could write up such a Blind post. And when it comes to anonymously bragging via lies on the internet, there is no shortage of prior art. To be fair, I wouldn't be surprised if the growth rate of engineering applications to these bigcos has declined over the past few years. A decline in the supply of candidates relative to demand, among other factors, could lead to an increase in compensation per…
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#169Well this makes me feel terrible... Your sign on was probably for more than I've made in my professional career. My first job after graduating 10 years ago was for 45k per year. I have had an awful lot of bad luck since graduating and have yet to be paid more than that since. Every job I've had paid progressively less, always took them cause I needed the job. My last programming job paid $14 an hour. Can anyone offer…
Where are you in Texas? I'm in Houston, and those numbers don't jive with my experience (since 2000, making $30 an hour in the lowest paying jobs, and making well more than that on a regular basis)
Took that job because I had been looking for a year and this was the first reasonable offer. Didn't negotiate cause I really needed the job, found out after a promotion that I was lowest paid employee in the shop by 20k.
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#170Have been interviewing people, many with 5+ years of experience and in my opinion it is not too difficult to spot somebody who is not fit for the job.
So well done again.