Maps Showing Where FBI Planes Are Watching from Above (2016)
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#2Previous discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11465978
Re: Maps Showing Where FBI Planes Are Watching from Above (2016)
#3Tone of this article is unfairly critical of DHS & FBI. When data and statistics underpin our decisions in everything - speech recognition to pricing and suggestions on Amazon, apparently the government's use of it to go after suspected terrorists is unfair.
The surveillance apparently shifted to a mosque after the San Bernardino shooting, not because the FBI hates mosques, but because data on individuals attending the mosque tagged them as suspects.
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#4This seems like a reasonable way to police. My only issue is if the drones can be 'heard' flying over a location. For example, buzzing over a specific house or business. Neighbors would automatically assume danger or guilt. If they drone, they should stay out of ear-range from anyone on the ground. Nobody should hear surveillance.
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#5This seems like a reasonable way to police. My only issue is if the drones can be 'heard' flying over a location. For example, buzzing over a specific house or business. Neighbors would automatically assume danger or guilt. If they drone, they should stay out of ear-range from anyone on the ground. Nobody should hear surveillance.
As for your issue, hearing the sound is a form of noise pollution. Its generally acceptable to have that during 9 to 5 but not during the night. Because it interferes with people's sleep, you can call the cops for a complaint. Not sure what they'd do if the drone owner is the FBI though.
As for the long term health effects of surveillance, we got Das Leben Der Anderen (The Lives Of Others) [1] already but additionally I'm anticipating seeing that covered in the documentary The Feeling of Being Watched about Operation Vulgar Betrayal. Quoting the About page [2]:
"In the Arab-American neighborhood outside of Chicago where director Assia Boundaoui grew up, most of her neighbors think they have been under surveillance for over a decade. While investigating their experiences, Assia uncovers hundreds of pages of declassified FBI documents that prove her hometown was the subject of one of the largest counterterrorism investigations ever conducted in the U.S. before 9/11 – code-named “Operation Vulgar Betrayal.”
With unprecedented access, The Feeling of Being Watched weaves the personal and the political as it follows the filmmaker’s examination of why her community fell under blanket government surveillance. Assia struggles to disrupt the government secrecy shrouding what happened to her neighborhood in the 90’s and probes why her community feels like they’re still being watched today. In the process, she confronts long-hidden truths about the FBI’s relationship to her community.
The Feeling of Being Watched follows Assia as she pieces together this secret FBI operation, while grappling with the effects of a lifetime of surveillance on herself and her family."
Documentary is scheduled for 2018. Kickstarter page [3].
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lives_of_Others
[2] http://www.feelingofbeingwatched.com/about
[3] https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/beingwatched/the-feelin...
Re: Maps Showing Where FBI Planes Are Watching from Above (2016)
#6There's only one way to respond to this:
Re: Maps Showing Where FBI Planes Are Watching from Above (2016)
#7Tone of this article is unfairly critical of DHS & FBI. When data and statistics underpin our decisions in everything - speech recognition to pricing and suggestions on Amazon, apparently the government's use of it to go after suspected terrorists is unfair. The surveillance apparently shifted to a mosque after the San Bernardino shooting, not because the FBI hates mosques, but because data on individuals attending t…
The problem isn't that they're trying to track down terrorists. The problem is that this method involves recording everything that happens within a large radius of their actual target.
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#8This seems like a reasonable way to police. My only issue is if the drones can be 'heard' flying over a location. For example, buzzing over a specific house or business. Neighbors would automatically assume danger or guilt. If they drone, they should stay out of ear-range from anyone on the ground. Nobody should hear surveillance.
> My only issue is if the drones can be 'heard' flying over a location.
Surveillance drones are quiet and fly high enough they can't be heard and are hard to spot. The only reason to fly them low enough to be heard or seen is for intimidation.
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#9Surprising how positive the initial comments here are.
Do you really believe any incidental collection that isn't specifically prohibited by law (which is to say, most) doesn't end up in a database mined for unrelated reasons?
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#10There's only one way to respond to this: http://i.imgur.com/lfcUz.jpg
I'm usually happy to not see these kinds of comments of Hacker News, but this one was funny as hell, I must admit.