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If your iOS 11 device unexpectedly restarts repeatedly on or after December 2

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Re: If your iOS 11 device unexpectedly restarts repeatedly on or after December 2

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I don't get all this anger towards "Apple". Ultimately, this and other recent bugs are human errors and we all make mistakes in our work - most likely due to a lack of time to do their job properly. I think that is the real issue.

If it were a one-off issue, this would be excusable. However, this is not the first, nor yet the tenth, major issue to occur on Apple devices in recent months, something that is inexcusable for a company who's reputation is founded on high-quality UX and reliability.

Re: If your iOS 11 device unexpectedly restarts repeatedly on or after December 2

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You know what would help shit like this? Letting us downgrade iOS. I get it. It means potential security exploits. But at least let us make the choice wether we’d prefer those to shiny new, and different issues that seem to be growing in number. Please? No? Fine, I’ll wait for the jailbreak and collect the goddamn SHSH blobs or whatever, if that’s how far you’ll make me go. My, how lucky you are that GarageBand iOS h…

This comment is written on iOS 10. I just wish there was a way to turn off the upgrade nag screen. Nothing better than asking for your passkey in a modal while you're trying to get shit done.

You can delay it a little by going to Settings > General > Storage & Cloud usage > Manage storage and delete the downloaded update. It buys me about a week until it downloads again and starts spamming me to upgrade.

Re: If your iOS 11 device unexpectedly restarts repeatedly on or after December 2

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This comment is written on 8.4.1... If I need to use a hammer I don't want to have to upgrade it... And when I do upgrade it I don't want the head to fly off or the handle to break when I'm trying to drive a nail.

This comment is written on iOS 6.1.3 on my iPad 2. It might not be able to run most new apps now, but at least it doesn't lag. Plus, the OS actually looks nice.

Just to be snark, this comment written in w3m/0.5.3.

Re: If your iOS 11 device unexpectedly restarts repeatedly on or after December 2

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post #100

I don't get all this anger towards "Apple". Ultimately, this and other recent bugs are human errors and we all make mistakes in our work - most likely due to a lack of time to do their job properly. I think that is the real issue.

Because when you pay 700 euros for a phone there is a certain level of quality expectations.

I agree. When you pay the premium for a high end X, whatever X happens to be, you expect it to be right. Probably the main reason I get so stroppy with these kinds of issues is that I'm time poor and the time I do have I don't want to spend faffing around dealing with them.

Perhaps I have an overdeveloped sense of entitlement (genuinely: there is no irony or sarcasm intended here), but one reason I pay for a premium object, device or experience is to avoid hassle and friction, so it's pretty frustrating when that's exactly what I get.

Re: If your iOS 11 device unexpectedly restarts repeatedly on or after December 2

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Nothing beats the iPad Mini / LTE model’s form factor and screen, and I use VOIP anyways.

iPhone 5s does. Not too big, not too small. RIP. Reaching the top corner on this 8 is horrible and I’m large, tall person.

I am not sure if I follow. The iPhone SE has the same form factor as the 5s, but mostly the innards of the iPhone 6s. Rumors are that there will be a new SE in the first quarter of 2018.

I am using an SE, because I dislike larger phones (though the 4.7" may still be ok).

Re: If your iOS 11 device unexpectedly restarts repeatedly on or after December 2

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post #100

I don't get all this anger towards "Apple". Ultimately, this and other recent bugs are human errors and we all make mistakes in our work - most likely due to a lack of time to do their job properly. I think that is the real issue.

Because when you pay 700 euros for a phone there is a certain level of quality expectations.

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Re: If your iOS 11 device unexpectedly restarts repeatedly on or after December 2

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Would we? We didn't burn LG at the stake for bootloops. We don't burn Microsoft at the stake for updating Windows 1p in the middle of work. Plenty of Android phones have had problems. If anything I feel like Apple gets more flak for every little thing, it just so happens this week they've had two genuinely really bad ones.

This doesn't seem a little thing to me. I use Apple primarily because I don't want headaches. But apparently every major iOS release is getting always worse, especially if you have "old" devices (calling old a phone from 2 years ago is kind of a stretch). I postponed my update because I read about the crippling battery life problems, and now there is also this bootloop...

The Pixel and Surface book are reaching out to you with open arms and a slightly predatory smile on their faces.

Re: If your iOS 11 device unexpectedly restarts repeatedly on or after December 2

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I created a separate account to write this comment, since it's going to be harsh. I work for a Bay Area technology company with a decidedly mediocre engineering team. My experience over the past 2-3 years is that the worst software engineers (at our mediocre organization) are being hired by Apple. This is totally anecdotal and the sample size is maybe five. But I just cannot escape the fact that Apple continues to hi…

Hah. I can't help but wonder if Apple has started mindlessly implementing contemporary "software engineering best practices" (yuck): - Everything must be Scrum or a similar sprint system: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8836734 - Move to an open office layout to foster collaboration: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14962663 - Kick out high-performing "heroes" like Scott Forstall - Instead, build teams of me…

It may also have to do something with scope. In 2000-~2010 Apple was basically and iPod + UNIX desktop company. The iPods did not spectacularly until the iPod Touch/iPhone, OS X had a relatively narrow scope: a UNIX system supporting a small hardware range, with a nice modern display server, and good object-oriented frameworks.

In the last years their scope has expanded immensely, both hardware-wise (iPhone, iPad, Apple Watch, Apple TV, now HomePod) and software-wise: AirPlay, CarPlay, Homekit, HealthKit, AR, Apple Music, Force Touch, machine learning, Siri, Handoff, Airdrop, Emoji with face recognition, etc. A lot of these technologies work somewhat, but are glitchy.

Of course, there are many times larger than the Apple of 2007, but managing an extremely broad palette of technologies is difficult. Especially when you want them all to produce something in-sync in the autumn. In some sense, Apple may have spread themselves to thinly.

I think think that we would be better served by an Apple that was more focused on core technologies and would let the third-party ecosystem focus on applications. Or perhaps completely separate divisions that would focus on macOS, iOS, and hardware. Or shipping features when they are done (rolling-release style) rather than one big drop every year.

At any rate, their current direction is hurting core, traditional use cases for Apple products. E.g. Preview.app/PDFKit has been really terrible the last two releases, to the point where I can barely use it for previewing my lecture slides, etc. Basic technologies like PDF rendering used to be stuff that they had nailed down extremely well.

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