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If your iOS 11 device unexpectedly restarts repeatedly on or after December 2

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Re: If your iOS 11 device unexpectedly restarts repeatedly on or after December 2

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Post by IgorPartola »

Fuuuck. So sorry time. A few years ago I had an iPhone. I liked the iPhone. One day in the middle of the night the iPhone started flashing its screen at me. I woke up and tried restarting it. It didn’t work. The iPhone was in a loop of some kind and restarting it sent it back into the same state. Being as it was my only alarm clock, I tried to do what I could to fix the iPhone. Restoring it to factory settings via iTunes helped, by restoring from backup brought the issue back until it suddenly stopped a few hours later. This happened with some regularity every few months. Then my ex’s iPhone started doing that too. Then her iPad. Than our upgraded phones. Apple support had never seen it. And nobody else had either. Eventually I filed a bug with Apple and also reported it on StackOverflow. The issue was that one of my calendars was an Exchange calendar and it has some weirdness about representing events that repeat forever. iOS did not handle that situation well and it sent the kernel into some sort of panic state. After I actually talked to a support developer at Apple, they released an update that ended about a year of misery for me.

Oh and some of you may remember the time that non-recurring alarms just stopped working one day on all iOS devices.

I still have an iPhone for reasons. But damn, I’d like to have one version of iOS that doesn’t have quite so many bugs.

Re: If your iOS 11 device unexpectedly restarts repeatedly on or after December 2

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Post by gurkendoktor »

anyguy2017 wrote: post #64
nautilus12 wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The quality people got sick of living like a peasant in the high cost of living areas surrounding apple and took jobs elsewhere. Its only a matter of time until every silicon valley tech company faces the same problem.

I created a separate account to write this comment, since it's going to be harsh. I work for a Bay Area technology company with a decidedly mediocre engineering team. My experience over the past 2-3 years is that the worst software engineers (at our mediocre organization) are being hired by Apple. This is totally anecdotal and the sample size is maybe five. But I just cannot escape the fact that Apple continues to hi…

Hah. I can't help but wonder if Apple has started mindlessly implementing contemporary "software engineering best practices" (yuck):

- Everything must be Scrum or a similar sprint system: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8836734 - Move to an open office layout to foster collaboration: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14962663 - Kick out high-performing "heroes" like Scott Forstall - Instead, build teams of mediocre (but probably nicer) engineers. They can then lift each other up through positivity and pair programming.

This is of course a lot of speculation (and wishful thinking) on my part, and honestly it's likely that any process would be doomed to failure under Apple's self-imposed deadlines. But I almost want to get a job at Apple only to see what it's like on the inside.

Re: If your iOS 11 device unexpectedly restarts repeatedly on or after December 2

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Post by megablast »

Karupan wrote: post #13

Not one word of apology from Apple! The workaround involves turning off notifications individually for every app, and then turning them on after the update. If this were any other manufacturer, they would be burnt at the stake. But we somehow let Apple get away with it.

Sure, like Samsung was burnt at the stake for exploding phones. Clearly this is way worse.

Re: If your iOS 11 device unexpectedly restarts repeatedly on or after December 2

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Post by megablast »

lern_too_spel wrote: post #79
derefr wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think, if you paid attention to the other brands, using the same strict criteria you're applying here, you'd decide they were horrible as well, for their own reasons; and, I would guess, probably more horrible than most products by either Samsung or Apple. Something doesn't have to be good in any objective sense, to be the best . If everything is bad, a very bad thing can still be "the best."

Strict criteria? We're talking boot loops, keyboards that replace the letter i, and exploding batteries, just to name some recent examples. I do actual work from my phone, and I wouldn't be able to work under those conditions. I do not have fanboyism to fall back on to feel good about my purchase.

One of those is not like the others.

Re: If your iOS 11 device unexpectedly restarts repeatedly on or after December 2

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Post by qq66 »

labster wrote: post #67
lostgame wrote: post #22

You know what would help shit like this? Letting us downgrade iOS. I get it. It means potential security exploits. But at least let us make the choice wether we’d prefer those to shiny new, and different issues that seem to be growing in number. Please? No? Fine, I’ll wait for the jailbreak and collect the goddamn SHSH blobs or whatever, if that’s how far you’ll make me go. My, how lucky you are that GarageBand iOS h…

This comment is written on iOS 10. I just wish there was a way to turn off the upgrade nag screen. Nothing better than asking for your passkey in a modal while you're trying to get shit done.

This comment is written on iOS 9. Still don't feel like I'm missing anything.

Re: If your iOS 11 device unexpectedly restarts repeatedly on or after December 2

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Post by zeep »

Karupan wrote: post #13

Not one word of apology from Apple! The workaround involves turning off notifications individually for every app, and then turning them on after the update. If this were any other manufacturer, they would be burnt at the stake. But we somehow let Apple get away with it.

I never liked Apple products because of all the restrictions, but since Steve Jobs is gone (a few years later, actually), Apple appears to have taken a whole other route...

Re: If your iOS 11 device unexpectedly restarts repeatedly on or after December 2

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Post by jaxondu »

iagooar wrote: post #19
AaronMT wrote: post #16

What is happening at Apple? I’m honestly worried for them. Is their QA department in disarray?

Could it be that the amount of bugs have exploded with the ever-growing complexity of their software combined with an unsustainable pace to guarantee solid, reliable software? It seems like a house of cards right now, and it will only get worse as they keep having the next crunch time just to deliver on an arbitrary management deadline...

Most of the iOS ui SpringBoard bugs are due to them rewriting the codes in Swift. Many Autolayout bug. Music app can’t even align the play button at center. Also Craig Federighi is busy with Siri, and busy shooting down Note 8 in social media. I was annoyed when the text replacement bug took one beta to solve, where the Calculator bug took 5 or 6 releases to solve. And the third reason is they expect users will actively test iOS for them. With so many bugs surfaced in media and in released version, my guess is no one is telling them the bugs during beta. Another reason is iPhone X is iPhone fragmentation with different home screen UI. You’re are right this will introduce complexity to the code base. I’m thankful for the touchbar in MacBook Pro and the notch design in X, both I dislike. This make me realise the many good points in other platform. Sort of like bursting my Apple fanboy bubble.

Re: If your iOS 11 device unexpectedly restarts repeatedly on or after December 2

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Post by [deleted] »

megablast wrote: post #84
lern_too_spel wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Strict criteria? We're talking boot loops, keyboards that replace the letter i, and exploding batteries, just to name some recent examples. I do actual work from my phone, and I wouldn't be able to work under those conditions. I do not have fanboyism to fall back on to feel good about my purchase.

One of those is not like the others.

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