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If your iOS 11 device unexpectedly restarts repeatedly on or after December 2

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Re: If your iOS 11 device unexpectedly restarts repeatedly on or after December 2

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Post by lostgame »

derefr wrote: post #57
lostgame wrote: post #22

You know what would help shit like this? Letting us downgrade iOS. I get it. It means potential security exploits. But at least let us make the choice wether we’d prefer those to shiny new, and different issues that seem to be growing in number. Please? No? Fine, I’ll wait for the jailbreak and collect the goddamn SHSH blobs or whatever, if that’s how far you’ll make me go. My, how lucky you are that GarageBand iOS h…

If you're willing to carry two devices, is there a reason you can't just have a dedicated GarageBand controller device (an iPod Touch or an iPad would do), and then get whatever dumb old devices you like?

The point is I shouldn’t have to, when my device used to work just dandy before I finally gave in to its incessant nagging to update.

Re: If your iOS 11 device unexpectedly restarts repeatedly on or after December 2

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Post by lostgame »

sarreph wrote: post #34
lostgame wrote: post #22

You know what would help shit like this? Letting us downgrade iOS. I get it. It means potential security exploits. But at least let us make the choice wether we’d prefer those to shiny new, and different issues that seem to be growing in number. Please? No? Fine, I’ll wait for the jailbreak and collect the goddamn SHSH blobs or whatever, if that’s how far you’ll make me go. My, how lucky you are that GarageBand iOS h…

@lostgame: Out of interest, what device size are you running GB on? Want to upgrade my old phone to take advantage of GB's Logic integration, but I can't decide whether to get an iPhone 8 Plus or the standard model... Does screen size make a big difference on that app? (do you know...) Thanks

Nothing beats the iPad Mini / LTE model’s form factor and screen, and I use VOIP anyways.

Re: If your iOS 11 device unexpectedly restarts repeatedly on or after December 2

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Post by systoll »

lern_too_spel wrote: post #29
JHonaker wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Let's not forget that other than people being a bit mad, all those bulging battery packs from Samsung seems to be largely, and quickly, forgotten. I even saw a review of the new one that had a "Doesn't explode" in the Pros column.

Nobody made excuses for Samsung, which finally couldn't market its way out of being regarded as one of the poorest quality Android phone manufacturers that sells in the US. I'll put the reaction to Apple's screwups on the same level as the reaction to LG's when I see a class action lawsuit.

The iPhone 4's antenna issues lead to a class action, resulting in claimants getting a free bumper case or $15.

Re: If your iOS 11 device unexpectedly restarts repeatedly on or after December 2

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Post by anyguy2017 »

nautilus12 wrote: post #51
AaronMT wrote: post #16

What is happening at Apple? I’m honestly worried for them. Is their QA department in disarray?

The quality people got sick of living like a peasant in the high cost of living areas surrounding apple and took jobs elsewhere. Its only a matter of time until every silicon valley tech company faces the same problem.

I created a separate account to write this comment, since it's going to be harsh.

I work for a Bay Area technology company with a decidedly mediocre engineering team.

My experience over the past 2-3 years is that the worst software engineers (at our mediocre organization) are being hired by Apple. This is totally anecdotal and the sample size is maybe five. But I just cannot escape the fact that Apple continues to hire our engineers that barely know how to program.

Hiring engineers in the Bay Area is hard. I'm sure Apple has a deep bench of talented engineers, but my own anecdotal experience tells me they have very much reduced their standards.

Re: If your iOS 11 device unexpectedly restarts repeatedly on or after December 2

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Post by andrey_utkin »

enraged_camel wrote: post #24
lostgame wrote: post #22

You know what would help shit like this? Letting us downgrade iOS. I get it. It means potential security exploits. But at least let us make the choice wether we’d prefer those to shiny new, and different issues that seem to be growing in number. Please? No? Fine, I’ll wait for the jailbreak and collect the goddamn SHSH blobs or whatever, if that’s how far you’ll make me go. My, how lucky you are that GarageBand iOS h…

Are there any operating systems that offer an seamless, out-of-the-box downgrade option? When I first upgraded from windows 7 to 10 I remember wanting to go back and finding out that it was an incredibly convoluted process. Although I guess with iOS you just can’t downgrade, period.

GNU/Linux

Re: If your iOS 11 device unexpectedly restarts repeatedly on or after December 2

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Post by sockgrant »

ratsimihah wrote: post #33
runeb wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Did it twice! Lost data too. Apples software quality has taken a very noticeable dive the last year or two. Being an iOS developer used to be very comfortable. It’s now become a real pain in many ways. Xcode being the worst.

How has it become a pain? Been doing. Stove iOS for a while and now I'm learning React Native, it's fun.

Same. I’ve done 10 or so apps in objc/swift and now 4 in RN and even though I know native like the back of my hand I much prefer RN.

Jsx and the rendering model of react is 10x better than constraints in code or storyboards.

Getting android nearly for free is just a cherry on top.

Re: If your iOS 11 device unexpectedly restarts repeatedly on or after December 2

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Post by labster »

lostgame wrote: post #22

You know what would help shit like this? Letting us downgrade iOS. I get it. It means potential security exploits. But at least let us make the choice wether we’d prefer those to shiny new, and different issues that seem to be growing in number. Please? No? Fine, I’ll wait for the jailbreak and collect the goddamn SHSH blobs or whatever, if that’s how far you’ll make me go. My, how lucky you are that GarageBand iOS h…

This comment is written on iOS 10. I just wish there was a way to turn off the upgrade nag screen. Nothing better than asking for your passkey in a modal while you're trying to get shit done.

Re: If your iOS 11 device unexpectedly restarts repeatedly on or after December 2

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Post by xuki »

labster wrote: post #67
lostgame wrote: post #22

You know what would help shit like this? Letting us downgrade iOS. I get it. It means potential security exploits. But at least let us make the choice wether we’d prefer those to shiny new, and different issues that seem to be growing in number. Please? No? Fine, I’ll wait for the jailbreak and collect the goddamn SHSH blobs or whatever, if that’s how far you’ll make me go. My, how lucky you are that GarageBand iOS h…

This comment is written on iOS 10. I just wish there was a way to turn off the upgrade nag screen. Nothing better than asking for your passkey in a modal while you're trying to get shit done.

Install the tvOS beta profile and it’ll never ask you again.

Re: If your iOS 11 device unexpectedly restarts repeatedly on or after December 2

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Post by JustSomeNobody »

A lot of people so ios 11 is no more buggy than previous versions, but i honestly disagree. iOS 11 has just been a mess. They say, wait till the .2 or .3 release and it'll get better. Sooo... that's 3 to 6 months of using a bug riddle OS just for it to get good. We're just supposed to put up with that?

I guess we are supposed to.

Re: If your iOS 11 device unexpectedly restarts repeatedly on or after December 2

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Post by BuckRogers »

lostgame wrote: post #22

You know what would help shit like this? Letting us downgrade iOS. I get it. It means potential security exploits. But at least let us make the choice wether we’d prefer those to shiny new, and different issues that seem to be growing in number. Please? No? Fine, I’ll wait for the jailbreak and collect the goddamn SHSH blobs or whatever, if that’s how far you’ll make me go. My, how lucky you are that GarageBand iOS h…

Yes, especially the last version of the last major branch. I would love to go back to iOS10.

I'll probably never update my phone to a new major iOS version until it's been out at least 6 months. If iOS11 is ever reaches the point where it's as good as iOS10 was, I'll install the tvOS beta config and prevent updates. At least until I'm able to take the time and research if the latest version of iOS12 is in good shape for most users.

An even better idea, and what I'm probably going to do, is to only update from and to the last version of each major iOS. Then you don't have to time anything at all and do any research/guesswork. Your device just works as well as it can, for the longest period of time. Everyone else beta tests Apple's software for you.

I really wish I were on 10.3.3 and had the tvOS profile right now. Never again.

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