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Afghan girls win European prize for solar-powered farming robot

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Re: Afghan girls win European prize for solar-powered farming robot

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Using prizes to push a political agenda. What could go wrong? Remember the nobel peace prize to obama for nothing? Or the clock in the suitcase boy a few years ago?

Yes, lets ruin the good name of science to push a political agenda. Then we won't have anything to trust anymore.

Re: Afghan girls win European prize for solar-powered farming robot

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Holy hell, what are these comments. A group of girls form a pretty messed up country had the willing and the guts to go ahead and submit anything to this competition, knowing full well they would be at a disadvantage compared to other first world countries, and coming from a very male orientated culture. Their parts where late and they only had two weeks to build it. Meanwhile a single accurate quote about how they w…

> and it's just a political hitpeice It is a political hit piece no better than awarding obama a nobel prize before he did anything as president. I'll make you a bet. There will be a syrian or a refugee who will "win" a prize in the next few years. > Get a life and grow up, I'd like to see you have the guts to try anything like this, even with your inherent advantage of living in a first world country. What's strange…

All of the Nobel peace prizes are political. Including Kissinger's.

Re: Afghan girls win European prize for solar-powered farming robot

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post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> and it's just a political hitpeice It is a political hit piece no better than awarding obama a nobel prize before he did anything as president. I'll make you a bet. There will be a syrian or a refugee who will "win" a prize in the next few years. > Get a life and grow up, I'd like to see you have the guts to try anything like this, even with your inherent advantage of living in a first world country. What's strange…

All of the Nobel peace prizes are political. Including Kissinger's.

Sure. But most people don't understand that. They think it is like the nobel prizes in science - based in achievement.

Re: Afghan girls win European prize for solar-powered farming robot

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So I'm here as the Chairman of Robotex and will quickly give an overview of these girls achievement. We first saw Roya, the entrepreneur helping those girls ar World Summit AI in Amsterdam earlier this October. There they decided to participate in the Entrepreneurial Challenge, which is a new competition determined to find the most awesome new robotics teams and/or solutions across all continents. It's somewhat like…

Thank you, I'm very happy for them! Cold you tell us a bit more about the hardware and software used in this project?

If done well, I feel this is quite an achievement. Farming machines are usually very heavy and making hem work via solar power only is not so easy.

Re: Afghan girls win European prize for solar-powered farming robot

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post #15

Holy hell, what are these comments. A group of girls form a pretty messed up country had the willing and the guts to go ahead and submit anything to this competition, knowing full well they would be at a disadvantage compared to other first world countries, and coming from a very male orientated culture. Their parts where late and they only had two weeks to build it. Meanwhile a single accurate quote about how they w…

> consolidation price

I assume you meant "consolation prize".

Re: Afghan girls win European prize for solar-powered farming robot

#46

So I'm here as the Chairman of Robotex and will quickly give an overview of these girls achievement. We first saw Roya, the entrepreneur helping those girls ar World Summit AI in Amsterdam earlier this October. There they decided to participate in the Entrepreneurial Challenge, which is a new competition determined to find the most awesome new robotics teams and/or solutions across all continents. It's somewhat like…

Thank you for taking the time to come and write a reply, it is greatly appreciated. I’d love to know more about the machine they ended up prototyping, and the other teams prototypes. It all sounds super interesting!

Re: Afghan girls win European prize for solar-powered farming robot

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post #15

Holy hell, what are these comments. A group of girls form a pretty messed up country had the willing and the guts to go ahead and submit anything to this competition, knowing full well they would be at a disadvantage compared to other first world countries, and coming from a very male orientated culture. Their parts where late and they only had two weeks to build it. Meanwhile a single accurate quote about how they w…

I'm reminded of the Naomi Wu controversy; people just assume that they're not "legitimate".

Also people fail to understand that this is not "reporting" in any sense, nor is this unusual - it's a press release that has been sent out verbatim as wire copy through Reuters. It's entirely routine for startups etc to send these things out and they just get printed as-is.

Hence the lack of detail.

Re: Afghan girls win European prize for solar-powered farming robot

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So what's the actual news here? That they were denied entry in the US? Should we feel bad about it or what? There's 0 insight into what they achieved and the reporter even got the name of the European country wrong. Looks like propaganda to me. Edit: yes, it's propaganda: "Please credit the Thomson Reuters Foundation, the charitable arm of Thomson Reuters, that covers humanitarian news, women’s rights, trafficking, p…

> So what's the actual news here? School girls from Afghanistan built a solar powered robot. That's news because this is something which is very hard to do in the absence of the many privileges that would make such an achievement easy. > That they were denied entry in the US? Yes. That too is news worthy and was covered extensively. > Should we feel bad about it or what? Maybe. But rather than feeling bad wouldn't it…

>School girls from Afghanistan built a solar powered robot.

No they didn't. They pitched it. There is nothing built, it is just an idea. An idea which other people already made years ago.

>Yes. That too is news worthy and was covered extensively.

Why?

>But rather than feeling bad wouldn't it be better to celebrate this, promote this and encourage things like this until a time that such things are common place enough to not be news worthy?

Things like what? Fake news being pushed by a progressive NGO and progressives disabling their critical thinking because the story is what they want to hear?

Re: Afghan girls win European prize for solar-powered farming robot

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's not the actual news here, because as I said, there's 0 insight on whatever they achieved. The emphasis was put on how bad it is to not let everybody in the US. Hence I believe this to be just some propaganda piece.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/kionasmith/2017/11/29/afghanist... This gives more detail.

It's still not great as far as factual information, it gives 3 contradictory sizes for the team (a picture purports to show the team, 4 people (+ the sponsor); it's said the team is 12 people and also 6 people in the text). I don't think they named any of the team, just the sponsor.

The angle appears to be "overcame adversity" but we don't learn where they worked on the project, what facilities they had, nor seemingly anything about the engineering other than the rules of the two competitions ...

Meh.

[Seems like a good personal achievement, I wouldn't belittle that, like get them up in school assembly, show them in the local paper, write about them in your family Christmas missive. But aside from the pretty unexceptional visa refusal it's a non-story IMO.]

Re: Afghan girls win European prize for solar-powered farming robot

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Holy hell, what are these comments. A group of girls form a pretty messed up country had the willing and the guts to go ahead and submit anything to this competition, knowing full well they would be at a disadvantage compared to other first world countries, and coming from a very male orientated culture. Their parts where late and they only had two weeks to build it. Meanwhile a single accurate quote about how they w…

Well, it is a highly political topic. And I found no article yet, with technical details, about what they technically actual accomplished. The Reuters article is especially lacking any information, except stating that they succeded technically, but faced problems at the US border before and the latter they repeated many times, not just one quote. So it looks a bit missleading and I would not call it journalism, if th…

Well, it is a highly political topic.

Have you asked yourself why? Fundamentally this is about a group of children traveling to participate in an entrepreneurial competition. There is nothing inherently political about that.

Who made it political? Who benefits from creating divisions that have made these children’s entry in a competition such a loaded question?

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