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Joplin – A note-taking and to-do app with builds for desktop, mobile, terminal

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Re: Joplin – A note-taking and to-do app with builds for desktop, mobile, terminal

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Why is this better than Orgmode? Orgmode is human readable, opens in any text editor, handles everything from bullet points to tables, and Github even has a Markdown-like renderer for Orgmode files.

Why did you click on this link? Are you unhappy with orgmode? Why? If not, why bother writing a comment?

These "questions" invariably come across as "this thing sucks because it's not the thing that I am used to".

Re: Joplin – A note-taking and to-do app with builds for desktop, mobile, terminal

#22
post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Why is this better than Orgmode? Not having to bother with Emacs is a huge plus.

So, we're going to trade that for Electron and React-Native?

Electron really pisses me off, and even I would rather use an Electron app than learn Emacs.

Re: Joplin – A note-taking and to-do app with builds for desktop, mobile, terminal

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post #6

I've played with a bunch of note tools, but once you need collaborative and painless synchronisation across platforms, your options really shrink. (I ended up with Google Keep, but it's not ideal.) As soon as we get Keybase FS on Android, this kind of tool becomes extremely interesting.

I have tried a bunch. Notion is super cool, but doesn't do tables at this moment (though they seem to be working on it). Some apps have one level of nesting only, which is not enough structure for my use case. By now I have settled on Dropbox Paper.

Also, having a WYSIWYG editor is cool, in raw Markdown links and images just do not look good for my taste (and tables, and more, compared to Dropbox Paper or Notion). The number of files for which they support syntax highlighting is small though. In particular Elixir is not in the list as of this writing.

Re: Joplin – A note-taking and to-do app with builds for desktop, mobile, terminal

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post #19

Still waiting for a nice rich text note taking tool that can compete with the likes of DevonThink and EverNote. I don't get the underlying fascination with using markdown.

Simplicity, freedom to really migrate your data.

Sure, you theoretically can migrate your notes from, say OneNote to Evernote (and vice-versa), but doing so is a great experience in frankensteining. I'm not even very confident there isn't outright data loss in some places, and with a high volume of notes, it's not feasible to check manually. Even with no loss, lots of stuff look ugly and/or do not work anymore, even if there is an equivalent on the target platform.

Re: Joplin – A note-taking and to-do app with builds for desktop, mobile, terminal

#26

Since I can't test it right now: Does this use some kind of database to store the notes? The readme talks about syncing, including to the file system. Why are the notes not simply stored as files in the first place? Would this not be much easier than constant exporting/importing to various providers?

That's exactly what I just built for myself. Flatnote, on the windows store (and soon on mac/Linux/mobile) is a rich-edit note app which stores files as .md files in the file system. Sync is handled by just putting your notes folder in Dropbox

Re: Joplin – A note-taking and to-do app with builds for desktop, mobile, terminal

#27
post #19

Still waiting for a nice rich text note taking tool that can compete with the likes of DevonThink and EverNote. I don't get the underlying fascination with using markdown.

>I don't get the underlying fascination with using markdown

As a programmer, most of the notes, I take, have code snippets. With markdown notes, I get nice code highlighting in my notes.

Also a lot of times HTML/RTF notes end up having hidden invisible characters. So it messes up commands. That's why I prefer plain text notes over rich formatted notes.

Re: Joplin – A note-taking and to-do app with builds for desktop, mobile, terminal

#28
post #19

Still waiting for a nice rich text note taking tool that can compete with the likes of DevonThink and EverNote. I don't get the underlying fascination with using markdown.

I think for most people it is portability. I can use my .md files in any Markdown editor and reasonably expect it to look the same.

If there isn't an editor to hand it is easy enough to read as plain text.

Re: Joplin – A note-taking and to-do app with builds for desktop, mobile, terminal

#29

Since I can't test it right now: Does this use some kind of database to store the notes? The readme talks about syncing, including to the file system. Why are the notes not simply stored as files in the first place? Would this not be much easier than constant exporting/importing to various providers?

That's exactly what I just built for myself. Flatnote, on the windows store (and soon on mac/Linux/mobile) is a rich-edit note app which stores files as .md files in the file system. Sync is handled by just putting your notes folder in Dropbox

Where can I follow your project? I currently use QOwnNotes on Linux which does exactly that, but would be keen to try some alternatives, in particular if you're working on a mobile version.

Re: Joplin – A note-taking and to-do app with builds for desktop, mobile, terminal

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post #24
post #19

Still waiting for a nice rich text note taking tool that can compete with the likes of DevonThink and EverNote. I don't get the underlying fascination with using markdown.

Simplicity, freedom to really migrate your data. Sure, you theoretically can migrate your notes from, say OneNote to Evernote (and vice-versa), but doing so is a great experience in frankensteining. I'm not even very confident there isn't outright data loss in some places, and with a high volume of notes, it's not feasible to check manually. Even with no loss, lots of stuff look ugly and/or do not work anymore, even…

writing your notes in markdown is a bit ass-backwards though - it's great as a storage medium but having to manually reformat a markdown document because you're not live-editing the output is a needless pain. I'd much rather write using your usual rich text interface and have that export markdown for me.
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