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Re: Ask HN: How much time in your working day do you spend in actual work?

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Post by ajeet_dhaliwal »

xaedes wrote: post #9
xaedes wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A few months ago I had the feeling I get nothing done (programming), because of all the other stuff I had to do. That is why I started tracking my time consumption on a half hour base. "If you want to control something you need to measure it" was my thinking. The time tracking itself doesn't cost much time. Did it earlier for my private life for a few months. The first weeks my average programming time was only 1.5h!…

But honestly all the work-related reading on the web (e.g. hackernews) I do should count as work time too. Then you can add some 4 hours or so.

How do you decide if it's work-related reading/browsing or not? So watching a music video on YouTube is clear but I'd say HackerNews is muddy, leaning towards entertainment. For example you need to sleep to work too, but that doesn't count. HN may provide general nourishment about latest tech news and have interested articles that elevate your general knowledge but hard for me to pin that down as hours worked. That's the problem with work today, it's not easily measurable, in the old fashioned way of thinking of work as putting caps on bottles I'm guessing most people do far less than they believe, I wouldn't be shocked if it was only a couple of hours for many.

Re: Ask HN: How much time in your working day do you spend in actual work?

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Post by malux85 »

As founder: about 12 hours, I take about 4 hours total breaks in the day to swim and often an hour or two nap in the middle, nap required because two 6 hour chunks is quite strenuous

This is not rigorously followed - sometimes 3 hours then an hour break then 3, sometimes 6,

I eat when I’m hungry and I sleep when I’m tired, I don’t have fixed meals or fixed schedules

First ~6 hours normally admin, emails, proposals, reseller support, mentoring juniors

Next ~6 hours is 100% coding

Work from home so no commute, nothing else to waste time on

Work 6 days a week, Sunday’s reserved for rest, reading and research

Re: Ask HN: How much time in your working day do you spend in actual work?

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Post by Noumenon72 »

xaedes wrote: post #9
xaedes wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A few months ago I had the feeling I get nothing done (programming), because of all the other stuff I had to do. That is why I started tracking my time consumption on a half hour base. "If you want to control something you need to measure it" was my thinking. The time tracking itself doesn't cost much time. Did it earlier for my private life for a few months. The first weeks my average programming time was only 1.5h!…

But honestly all the work-related reading on the web (e.g. hackernews) I do should count as work time too. Then you can add some 4 hours or so.

If you're not taking notes on it so you can access and use it later, it's likely just an idle interest. Reading's not the same as learning. Also if you would read it without getting paid, it's probably not work.

Re: Ask HN: How much time in your working day do you spend in actual work?

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Post by Noumenon72 »

I come from a factory background where it wasn't uncommon to spend the entire 8-12 hours working at the fastest safe pace I could. After a year of developing, I still spend almost no time on water-cooler talk and web browsing, the only things that are clearly not work. I don't see anybody else wasting time like that either. I wonder if the 'barely four hours a day' people would not count stuff like editing a wiki, investigtating a log, and so forth.

My job isn't 100% programming by any stretch. But when I do have programming, I spend 8 hours straight. It doesn't seem to make me very productive, but I do spend it all hard at work.

Re: Ask HN: How much time in your working day do you spend in actual work?

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Post by xaedes »

Noumenon72 wrote: post #14
xaedes wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But honestly all the work-related reading on the web (e.g. hackernews) I do should count as work time too. Then you can add some 4 hours or so.

If you're not taking notes on it so you can access and use it later, it's likely just an idle interest. Reading's not the same as learning. Also if you would read it without getting paid, it's probably not work.

Not all things I read on the way are worth taking notes of.

But the work related gems I find will be mailed back to work with keywords.

For gems that are related to personal interests I have other knowledge base dumps.

Re: Ask HN: How much time in your working day do you spend in actual work?

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Post by xaedes »

ajeet_dhaliwal wrote: post #11
xaedes wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But honestly all the work-related reading on the web (e.g. hackernews) I do should count as work time too. Then you can add some 4 hours or so.

How do you decide if it's work-related reading/browsing or not? So watching a music video on YouTube is clear but I'd say HackerNews is muddy, leaning towards entertainment. For example you need to sleep to work too, but that doesn't count. HN may provide general nourishment about latest tech news and have interested articles that elevate your general knowledge but hard for me to pin that down as hours worked. That's…

Yea well you have to dig through a lot of trash to find the gems. But since it is part of the deal you need to take the time into account that you need to wander through the mud. Officially I won't count the hours that I use for this at home. But at least for me that is definitely work related.

Re: Ask HN: How much time in your working day do you spend in actual work?

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Post by luckydude »

I'm semi retired so not that much, certainly nothing like I used to work.

When I was a kernel engineer at Sun, there were stretches where I worked around 14 hours per "day". "day" had a different definition for me, I worked on about a 34 hour "day". Which meant that my day time hours were constantly shifting. A coworker put a clock on my door that said "where's larry?" and it showed when I'd be in next. I think it was a joke but some people said they liked it.

The reason I did this was I would be working on stuff where it could take ~8 hours just to regain the state I had in my head when I stopped working the previous day. So if I did 8 hour days I'd never make any forward progress. So you do 8 hours to page in the state and then you go as far as you can go to move things forward.

I didn't have much of a social life back then but I didn't care, I was getting stuff done at Sun and loved it. It was a super productive time of my life.

Re: Ask HN: How much time in your working day do you spend in actual work?

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Post by JoeAltmaier »

Contractor, currently with a large ag company, remote. I work 1 or two hours out of 8. The rest spent waiting for their antique tool chain to get stuff done. Read a butt-ton of HN the last month.

Previous contracts - I worked an hour for every hour I billed, moving their project forward. Usually 5 or 6 hours a day. The rest spent working on more contracts etc.

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