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Facebook’s New Captcha Test: 'Upload a Clear Photo of Your Face'

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Re: Facebook’s New Captcha Test: 'Upload a Clear Photo of Your Face'

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Post by andrei_says_ »

goialoq wrote: post #264
halflings wrote: post #225

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The more data they keep about these images that they are promising to delete, the more they would make themselves liable to be sued for privacy violation (especially in the EU). It is a blurred line, but one that most rational companies (=not Uber) would prefer to avoid in the first place by only storing data that is necessary for their main functionality.

What is Facebook's "main functionality"?

Monetizing on people’s relationships and social addiction, collecting and providing detailed data on all user activities, sentiments and connections, selling sets of such data to ...?

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Post by Splines »

danso wrote: post #123
Splines wrote: post #120

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I disagree: - It sets a precedent for uploading nude photos to FB and for them asking for it. - You need to trust FB to delete the photos when they receive it. Yes, I understand that they probably will, but really, how many systems are those bits going to touch? How many logs are going to have this information? Can you be really sure? A better implementation would be for the FB client to hash the file and for the has…

> - It sets a precedent for uploading nude photos to FB and for them asking for it. Before we reduce this to a slippery slope, what scenario do you envision in which FB could coax its userbase to upload nude photos? I know the OP is about taking a selfie to prove existence. What would FB use as the basis to mandate the general user to send a self-nude? > You need to trust FB to delete the photos when they receive it.…

> Before we reduce this to a slippery slope, what scenario do you envision in which FB could coax its userbase to upload nude photos? I know the OP is about taking a selfie to prove existence. What would FB use as the basis to mandate the general user to send a self-nude?

Phishing attacks against users that this feature is supposed to protect are more likely to succeed.

Re: Facebook’s New Captcha Test: 'Upload a Clear Photo of Your Face'

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Post by Tarq0n »

will_hughes wrote: post #257

Instagram did this same bullshit to me when I signed up for an account to to follow some photographers. 'Please provide a clear photo of yourself holding your government issued ID, and a piece of paper with the following code handwritten on it'. No, fuck that for a joke. There's this growing trend of everyone wanting your photo and some ID, and then you have no way to verify that information is being kept securely or…

I wonder if some three letter agency is paying facebook to build them the biggest face recognition database in the world.

Re: Facebook’s New Captcha Test: 'Upload a Clear Photo of Your Face'

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Post by kfrzcode »

andrei_says_ wrote: post #271
goialoq wrote: post #264

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What is Facebook's "main functionality"?

Monetizing on people’s relationships and social addiction, collecting and providing detailed data on all user activities, sentiments and connections, selling sets of such data to ...?

Advertisers. If you've ever bought an ad on facebook and see you can pick your target audience by which types of food they shop for or their income range from 10k increments alongside thousands of other filters.... fuck man they have a helluva ad platform

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Post by alasdair_ »

goialoq wrote: post #266
geocar wrote: post #181

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The GDPR penalties can reach 4% global (i.e. sum all related companies) annual turnover per infraction . If anyone ever found out Facebook had a widespread violation, Facebook would be likely be dissolved.

That's insane. What's a "single" infraction? It doesn't distinguish between revenue and profit? 4% of global revenue could be more than the total of all profit and salaries.

"Profit" can be kept at zero essentially forever. Revenue is much harder to hide.

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Post by vonuebelgarten »

Question: is Wired actively blocking archive.is? I tried to archive this article just to get a repeated "Network error" [1] which may be a sign of a Layer 3 block. A trivial search [2] shows no page is successfully archived since the end of September.

[1] https://archive.is/eU7Yn

[2] https://archive.is/www.wired.com

Re: Facebook’s New Captcha Test: 'Upload a Clear Photo of Your Face'

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Post by coolaliasbro »

clamprecht wrote: post #47

Last paragraph of the article: "The new authentication scheme is the second in recent weeks that relies on photos. Earlier this month, Facebook asked users to upload nude photos to Facebook Messenger, as part of an effort to prevent revenge porn. Facebook said it would use the nude photos to create a digital fingerprint against which to compare future posts." Wait what? I had to check whether today was April 1st.

This is ridiculous. I mean, so many angles...

Can't they just train their system to do whatever it is they propose that it do in response to alleged revenge porn, but with any nude image/nude images generally? Will their system prevent the propagation of revenge porn videos?

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Post by freedomben »

will_hughes wrote: post #257

Instagram did this same bullshit to me when I signed up for an account to to follow some photographers. 'Please provide a clear photo of yourself holding your government issued ID, and a piece of paper with the following code handwritten on it'. No, fuck that for a joke. There's this growing trend of everyone wanting your photo and some ID, and then you have no way to verify that information is being kept securely or…

This is the case with almost all crypto currency exchanges as well. Even in that case, which I can sort of understand (even tho I still hate it), I was pretty off put by it. If Facebook or some other service starts doing this to me, I will use something else.

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Post by kuschku »

jstanley wrote: post #256
geocar wrote: post #183

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It applies to Europeans, even if they're not in Europe, and even if they don't identify themselves as being in Europe.

How exactly does the EU propose to apply its laws to people dealing with Europeans outside the EU? Being European doesn't automatically subject everyone you interact with to EU laws, especially while you're outside the EU.

> How exactly does the EU propose to apply its laws to people dealing with Europeans outside the EU?

The EU can seize hard- and software of Facebook on their EU servers, the EU can seize Facebooks cash holdings in Ireland, the EU can seize (and sell off) Facebook’s patents held in the EU.

Stuff like this has happened before, and european governments have previously even seized airplanes from airlines right after landing to pay customers for a refund for a flight that the airline refused to pay.

This can, and absolutely will happen.

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