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Has music streaming killed the instrumental intro?

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Re: Has music streaming killed the instrumental intro?

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If this were true, wouldn't radio have had the same affect?

Yes, though a radio station would often times start with an intro and let the record play through the next track (speaking as a child of the 70's when progressive rock / concept albums were at their peak). DJs & programming directors knew that certain tracks would not make sense on their own and would adjust. I have a hunch that it's not streaming that's really responsible, per se, but the "Shuffle" function that's b…

SiriusXM's Beatles channel plays pairs of songs together when that is the norm on the radio. Some White Album songs basically lead into each other, iirc.

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I recall reading that the push for shorter intros and 3 to 3.5 minute songs was radio, pre-streaming.

This is purely anecdotal, but there are a bunch of songs I can remember hearing on the radio growing up (15-20 years ago, although the songs were much older than I was) that had extended instrumental intros that were almost always cut out; offhand, "Jump" by Van Halen and "Fly Like an Eagle" by Steve Miller come to mind, although I'm sure there are others I can't quite recall (technically the intro to "Jump" was list…

Also from the 70s: Funeral for a Friend / Love Lies Bleeding by Elton John (on the Yellow Brick Road album, vocals start at 5:35) and Foreplay / Long Time by Boston (on the debut album, vocals start at 2:30). Of course, each of these is really an instrumental piece prepended to a vocal song.

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[I didn't read the article, but] I think the move to buying songs one-at-a-time has hurt the whole 'album' concept, including long intros, long interludes, and the idea of a body of work that builds on a theme.

I think that was true for the iTunes years before Spotify and other streaming services came along. Before, you had to pay for each song so you picked just a few you liked. Now, it's just as easy to play the whole album as to play one song. (In facts, it's easier to queue up an album than to play one song at a time since you have to choose what to play fewer times per time interval.) Anecdotally, we've seen whole-albu…

Before you could buy music one song at a time we complained that the music labels would release a new album with three new songs and the rest was just the same old songs from their other albums. And then comes the "Greatest hits" collections with even more copies of the same stuff.

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You didn't have much choice back then. A few songs were released as single tapes, but a full album wasn't much more expensive, plus many stores did not carry singles, or if they did, the selection was often small. There was no concept of a single CD.

That's not quite true: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CD_single But they were never very popular.

interesting. learn something new everyday.

Re: Has music streaming killed the instrumental intro?

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I would think you'd have to argue that the answer is more. The crux being that mega companies no longer have absolute control over a limited number of distribution channels (e.g., traditional radio). That has to have led gaps for other genres to edge in. Look at EMD a couple years ago. That, I don't think, was driven by top down marketing dollars. I think you're likely talking about less accessible genres, but I thin…

EDM? (Electronic Dance Music) Or am I missing something and EMD is not a typo (quite possible)?

Yes. Typo. Sorry. Thx.

Re: Has music streaming killed the instrumental intro?

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New Model Army, Vagabonds, around 1.15M hits:

https://open.spotify.com/track/41bdgBL7tjwQOl7RpwubKU

The "real" version, with a fantastic build-up violin intro that to my ear at least, makes this a truly great song. Not sure how many hits, but it doesn't make it into their "top 5", so presumably below 350k hits:

https://open.spotify.com/track/3WBwyZLd4hzMibFg6tVqh9

Just one datapoint perhaps - but a great sounding one :)

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I recall reading that the push for shorter intros and 3 to 3.5 minute songs was radio, pre-streaming.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Entertainer_(song)

> Another verse in the song references the shortening of Joel's song, "Piano Man", from 5 minutes and 38 seconds to 3 minutes and 5 seconds to fit a radio slot, referenced by the lyrics

    It was a beautiful song,
    but it ran too long  
    If you're gonna have a hit
    you gotta make it fit
    So they cut it down to 3:05.

Re: Has music streaming killed the instrumental intro?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is purely anecdotal, but there are a bunch of songs I can remember hearing on the radio growing up (15-20 years ago, although the songs were much older than I was) that had extended instrumental intros that were almost always cut out; offhand, "Jump" by Van Halen and "Fly Like an Eagle" by Steve Miller come to mind, although I'm sure there are others I can't quite recall (technically the intro to "Jump" was list…

Also from the 70s: Funeral for a Friend / Love Lies Bleeding by Elton John (on the Yellow Brick Road album, vocals start at 5:35) and Foreplay / Long Time by Boston (on the debut album, vocals start at 2:30). Of course, each of these is really an instrumental piece prepended to a vocal song.

Yes' masterpiece, Close to the edge, has nothing but "nature" sounds for the first 57 seconds. The first human vocal sound (”aaahhhh") is at 2:00, while the first lyrics are at 4:01. But then the song, or suite, really, is 18:45 long. I'm too lazy to check their other long works.

Re: Has music streaming killed the instrumental intro?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is purely anecdotal, but there are a bunch of songs I can remember hearing on the radio growing up (15-20 years ago, although the songs were much older than I was) that had extended instrumental intros that were almost always cut out; offhand, "Jump" by Van Halen and "Fly Like an Eagle" by Steve Miller come to mind, although I'm sure there are others I can't quite recall (technically the intro to "Jump" was list…

There are about 30 seconds of intro to Jump, but are you talking about the track "1984", which is just synthesizers? Sure, the track isn't played on its own but it's more of an intro to the album than an intro to Jump.

Every time I've heard it on the radio, it was as an extended intro to "Jump" (which admittedly is a small percentage of the times that I've heard "Jump" on the radio). It also flows quite naturally into "Jump" due to the shared synthesizer effects, whereas a lot of the other stuff on the album has little to no keyboards.
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