What do you think Facebook could do here, that wouldn't violate privacy, to verify that you are who you claimed to be?
Facebook’s New Captcha Test: 'Upload a Clear Photo of Your Face'
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#92https://petapixel.com/2017/11/07/ai-creates-photo-realistic-... Tadaa. Another pointless privacy invasion that only affects the fair and honest.
Hmm, this wouldn't help you defeat the system at all, unless I'm missing something. What you need is a model to generate photos of your face.
FB is most likely trying to ward off spammers with this idea. Generating unique faces per spam-bot is easy now, for sophisticated spammers, then for every spammer in a few months. The poster is trying to say that this FB effort won't work well and is already only adversely affecting the most stupid and trusting.
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#93You really want to put your plain face to cia nsa database ? I hope people leave this platform asap
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#94Last paragraph of the article: "The new authentication scheme is the second in recent weeks that relies on photos. Earlier this month, Facebook asked users to upload nude photos to Facebook Messenger, as part of an effort to prevent revenge porn. Facebook said it would use the nude photos to create a digital fingerprint against which to compare future posts." Wait what? I had to check whether today was April 1st.
There was a thread about this on HN -- too lazy to look it up now or repeat some of the longer comments about it. But going into this assuming that FB has no ill-intentions, FB's proposal seems by far the best solution in a world of ugly and terrible solutions. For starters, it's intended for victims of revenge porn, which is a fairly extreme category and one in which the harassment is distinctively aggressive and vi…
FB has a no porn policy so wtf do you have verify you are you to get a revenge porn picture removed?
"We remove photographs of people displaying genitals or focusing in on fully exposed buttocks. We also restrict some images of female breasts if they include the nipple, but our intent is to allow images that are shared for medical or health purposes. We also allow photos of women actively engaged in breastfeeding or showing breasts with post-mastectomy scarring. We also allow photographs of paintings, sculptures, and other art that depicts nude figures. Restrictions on the display of sexual activity also apply to digitally created content unless the content is posted for educational, humorous, or satirical purposes. Explicit images of sexual intercourse are prohibited. Descriptions of sexual acts that go into vivid detail may also be removed." https://www.facebook.com/communitystandards#nudity
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#95Earlier quoted context omitted.
Not sure how I feel about it still, but this article doesn't really accurately portray the service. From the source linked by the Wired article [1], this is specifically intended to prevent a nude photo from being shared maliciously when a user has reason to believe that it will be. They then voluntarily upload the image to Facebook which uses the digital fingerprint to prevent it from being reposted either in its or…
I don't see how that makes it better.
Well in that case it actually makes sense. They can fingerprint the photo and then automatically remove it.
Though really would be better to fingerprint all removed photos and automatically prevent any matching photos from being uploaded.
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#96Earlier quoted context omitted.
There was a thread about this on HN -- too lazy to look it up now or repeat some of the longer comments about it. But going into this assuming that FB has no ill-intentions, FB's proposal seems by far the best solution in a world of ugly and terrible solutions. For starters, it's intended for victims of revenge porn, which is a fairly extreme category and one in which the harassment is distinctively aggressive and vi…
FB has a no porn policy so wtf do you have verify you are you to get a revenge porn picture removed? "We remove photographs of people displaying genitals or focusing in on fully exposed buttocks. We also restrict some images of female breasts if they include the nipple, but our intent is to allow images that are shared for medical or health purposes. We also allow photos of women actively engaged in breastfeeding or…
It might prevent them from being sent in the first place. If it matches a fingerprint photo, the message stops. It's especially important in revenge porn scenarios where you don't want it seen by anyone, and even the short amount of time between report and take down can have a lot of views.
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#97Sure, Facebook might delete your photo when they're done, but they probably won't delete any machine learning models that they trained using it.
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#98Earlier quoted context omitted.
There was a thread about this on HN -- too lazy to look it up now or repeat some of the longer comments about it. But going into this assuming that FB has no ill-intentions, FB's proposal seems by far the best solution in a world of ugly and terrible solutions. For starters, it's intended for victims of revenge porn, which is a fairly extreme category and one in which the harassment is distinctively aggressive and vi…
FB has a no porn policy so wtf do you have verify you are you to get a revenge porn picture removed? "We remove photographs of people displaying genitals or focusing in on fully exposed buttocks. We also restrict some images of female breasts if they include the nipple, but our intent is to allow images that are shared for medical or health purposes. We also allow photos of women actively engaged in breastfeeding or…
This is for FB messenger, not FB posts. Messenger has no such rules for no pornography. Plus, this allows them to be proactive, rather than waiting for people to report posts.
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#99They say they will permanently delete it off of their servers, but the numerous cases where they lied about deleting account information doesn't exactly engender a feeling of trust.
A friend does HW for Seagate servers and has talked a bit about the 'math' of servers. The reality is the FB may or may not delete the pics, no matter what they think they really did. With the amount of servers they utilize, one is failing about every second, permanently erasing all the data on it. Yes, back-up servers, and copies of the data. Still, a lot of data is getting trashed every second. So, they may be trying to weasel these pics, but do not trust that they are smart enough to get around the hard facts of server decay. If they are being honest, then there is still no way to determine if some back-up somewhere actually is storing the data, despite their best efforts. The code stack for something like FB is so huge, there really is no way of knowing where a piece of data is or isn't. Kafka would be beaming at it's absurdity.
In addition, they also have a lot of 'fresh' servers out there, spinning about for months, not being written to, as some algorithm works it's way around using the fresh servers. These also fail, having never been used. Seagate does not mind when companies like FB do this nonsense.
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#100Earlier quoted context omitted.
I couldn't believe it. This is the most absurd thing I have ever heard.
Sexting is quite common about young adults and so is the subsequent sharing of those photos. Being able to stop that from happening is incredibly valuable. I am just surprised Facebook didn't instead look at a way of running these image hashing algorithms on the device instead.
I think they look for modifications of the photo as well so a cropping/tilt/text overlay/etc would still be flagged. Their model might require per-processing beyond what they can or want to deploy on-device.