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Facebook’s New Captcha Test: 'Upload a Clear Photo of Your Face'

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Re: Facebook’s New Captcha Test: 'Upload a Clear Photo of Your Face'

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Last paragraph of the article: "The new authentication scheme is the second in recent weeks that relies on photos. Earlier this month, Facebook asked users to upload nude photos to Facebook Messenger, as part of an effort to prevent revenge porn. Facebook said it would use the nude photos to create a digital fingerprint against which to compare future posts." Wait what? I had to check whether today was April 1st.

I couldn't believe it. This is the most absurd thing I have ever heard.

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They don't need you to confirm it. This isn't a criminal case. They just need to be reasonably confident. Your face is in a picture with four other people. They can see that phones belonging to four people, who regularly chat with each other, were all at the same location at the time the photo was taken. They are now reasonably confident that your face is one of those four. Do that five or six times and their robots…

They can see that phones belonging to four people, who regularly chat with each other, were all at the same location at the time the photo was taken. How would they "see" your phone without the facebook app installed?

They buy/rent that data from google or any of a thousand other companies that might have access to your phone's location.

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I should write a blog post about this, but to those thinking about deleting Facebook, My experience deleting it 5 years ago is summarized as: my friend count went way down, my friend quality went way up. Your results may vary, but the purpose of my comment is not to immediately be worried that Facebook is a mandatory lifeline for your social life.

> my friend count went way down, my friend quality went way up.

I too quit around then, and I think I feel that most on my birthday. I only hear from probably a tenth the people but now when they remember on their own and text/call it means a lot more.

Re: Facebook’s New Captcha Test: 'Upload a Clear Photo of Your Face'

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Knowing fb, this is for their benefit, not the users i.e, they're trying to catch spammers and fake accounts, not see if you're the one accessing your own account or not.

I fear it's much more insidious than that. Facebook has a tendency to start doing some invasive stuff and then announce it to the world only 5 years later. They probably plan to use your facial profile for a number of things, none of which have to do with authenticating you to the Facebook website. I even see them sharing the profiles with the DHS to build more accurate facial recognition at airports, and other stuff…

> Facebook has consistently tried to build a reputation of "shady-as-fuck" company throughout the years, and it's going to pay the price for it

Unfortunately, I think the fact that many people don't realize platforms like Instagram and WhatsApp belong to Facebook will allow them to avoid paying the price.

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Third option: delete your Facebook account.

I prefer posting only articles critical of Facebook to my feed until I get locked out of my account for some reason. I won't create a new one, but I might as well use the one I have to do some good.

> I prefer posting only articles critical of Facebook to my feed

You realize Facebook's algorithm is most likely keeping those posts well hidden from your "friends", right?

Re: Facebook’s New Captcha Test: 'Upload a Clear Photo of Your Face'

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I should write a blog post about this, but to those thinking about deleting Facebook, My experience deleting it 5 years ago is summarized as: my friend count went way down, my friend quality went way up. Your results may vary, but the purpose of my comment is not to immediately be worried that Facebook is a mandatory lifeline for your social life.

> my friend count went way down, my friend quality went way up. This is an important distinction. FB has programmed us to believe quantity is the goal, when quality probably should be. How many FB "friends" does the average user have meaningful relationships with? I'd speculate not many more than it's possible to maintain offline/without FB's "help".

I'm not sure how true that is; virtually everyone I've encountered distinguished unqualified “friends” from “Facebook friends”, the two groups being distinct, usually overlapping, categories. There are certainly people who treasure their number of social media followers, just as there have always been people who treasure the offline equivalent, and social media like Facebook makes it easier to quantity and compare than the offline world. But I don't think it's really that common for people to conflate social media network sizes with genuine friendship.

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I prefer posting only articles critical of Facebook to my feed until I get locked out of my account for some reason. I won't create a new one, but I might as well use the one I have to do some good.

> I prefer posting only articles critical of Facebook to my feed You realize Facebook's algorithm is most likely keeping those posts well hidden from your "friends", right?

> You realize Facebook's algorithm is most likely keeping those posts well hidden from your "friends", right?

Yes, but not completely. I do get a handful of likes/comments on them and one friend commented in person about how often I post them. If they're suppressed by the algorithm, they're not getting suppressed too much.

In any case, I don't put a ton of effort into them. They're just articles I've discovered naturally with a pull quote or short summary.

Re: Facebook’s New Captcha Test: 'Upload a Clear Photo of Your Face'

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> The process is automated, including identifying suspicious activity and checking the photo. ... The Facebook spokesperson said the photo test is one of several methods, both automated and manual, used to detect suspicious activity. So I don't get if this "captcha" process is automated or manual (...or both)? Somewhere else in the article it says that users are apparently locked out of their accounts until the pic i…

Couple things. 1.) The face verification is automatic. It is among other processes that are automatic and some other processes that are manual. 2.) Lock out periods are to prevent repeated attempts. 3.) The face has to match the face of the account, so generating a new face won’t work.

> The face has to match the face of the account, so generating a new face won’t work.

It quite easily could work well if the account has, or is tagged in, any public images and those are used as input to the generation process. (Or if it's associated with a person of whom there are public images in other sources, off of Facebook.)

I'm assuming the process is sophisticated enough that you can't just post an existing public Facebook image of the user without modification, but that may be too generous.

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