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What the Stoics did for us

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Re: What the Stoics did for us

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One of my favorite quotes is attributed to the stoic Epictetus:

   If anyone tells you that such a person speaks ill of you,
   don’t make excuses about what is said of you, but answer:
   “He does not know my other faults,
   else he would not have mentioned only these.”

Re: What the Stoics did for us

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I made a simple Chrome extension in the Chrome Web Store that shows a stoicism quote and serene wallpaper in each new tab: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/stoikk/hghegkdflff... Any recommendations for improvements/features/etc are always appreciated.

the text of the quotes takes way too long to fade in. in fact, i'd remove the fade entirely.

otherwise, nice work, thanks.

Re: What the Stoics did for us

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You can download Marcus Aurelius' Meditations for free at my project, Standard Ebooks: https://standardebooks.org/ebooks/marcus-aurelius/meditation... The translation is good and Meditations is one of my favorite books. Super interesting to get an inside look at how the most powerful man in the world used Stoicism to deal with both the weight of an empire, and with day-to-day trivialities. The Enchiridion is another…

anybody here was surprised realizing how much of life was known to people 2000 years ago, and no matter what the society and technology .. these ideas do matter

The people then were the same human species as today, and there's no reason to think that they understood human nature any less (in fact I think people today have a lot of trouble understanding human nature).

Re: What the Stoics did for us

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A good summary of my go-to Stoicism book: http://becomingeden.com/summary-of-a-guide-to-the-good-life/ The book they are summarizing: A Guide to the Good Life: The Ancient Art of Stoic Joy: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0195374614/ref=as_li_ss_tl...

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Re: What the Stoics did for us

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For what it's worth, the Hays translation of Meditations is much easier reading.

I also like Robin Hard's translation quite a bit.

I surveyed a bunch of translations a few years back, comparing them to one another and to the original Greek, trying to find the best accuracy/readability balance. Landed on Maxwell Staniforth's. There's a paperback available from someone (Penguin?) and it's the translation the Folio Society used for their Meditations, if you're into above-average-quality hardbacks.

Re: What the Stoics did for us

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Agreed. The Stoics allowed themselves to have emotions. It is a common misconception that stoicism is about deadening feelings and reactions to the world. Stoics acknowledge and even embrace our emotions, but what stoics aim for after experiencing emotions and gut reactions is some of the most interesting parts of stoicism for modern readers. I always direct people to http://classics.mit.edu/Epictetus/goldsay.html fo…

It feels like an older version of "sheeple". In terms of modern Stoic writing, I find Ryan Holiday's "The Ego is The Enemy" and "The Obstacle is the Way" (as well as his "Daily Stoic", although that's more of a daily devotional) to be very enjoyable and help to reframe the often hard-to-read writings of Aurelius, Seneca and Epictetus into actionable advice.

What is the singular of sheeple, anyway?

Re: What the Stoics did for us

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Can you share some recommendations here?

How to be a Stoic changes the historical context of Stoicism to suit Pigliucci's personal views. I do not recommend that book, since his good bits are borrowed from The Inner Citadel . The author lost my respect when he supported the revisionism of the BBC. https://medium.com/opacity/comment-on-klueless-massimo-s-com... This short essay by GILBERT MURRAY is the best introduction to Stoicism: http://ia600304.us.archiv…

For Seneca, U. of Chicago Press has been releasing a series of new translations[1] over the last few years. Good, if a bit expensive. May be some on the used market by now. Hardship and Happiness would probably be the most useful one if you're looking for his work on Stoicism, followed by Letters on Ethics, then Anger, Mercy, Revenge. They may eventually do a one or two volume "best of" compilation as sometimes publishers do when they release these long, expensive series, and maybe paperback editions. Dunno. There are ebook versions of them if that's your thing.

[1] http://www.press.uchicago.edu/ucp/books/series/CWLAS.html

Re: What the Stoics did for us

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I'm a forensic psychiatrist, and I work in corrections. I have been finding myself recommending books on stoicism to some of my patients after reading a few myself. It's a useful counterpoint to the modern idea that if your life is not Instagram/Pinboard material then you are a failure.

Maybe I misunderstand stoic philosophy, but the rule to override emotional responses to failure with serenity strikes me as overly broad. Sometimes it is simply easier to get angry and let it out; especially if that sends a valid corrective signal to someone who is at fault. And even if the failure was just bad luck, it seem totally fine to be mad for a couple of minutes or hours. It is simply the way our brains have…

Stoicism is about letting go of the things you CANT change, so that you have more energy and ability to focus on the things you can change.

If someone has wronged you, and sending a corrective signal is in your power, than Stoicism would be favor of you fixing that problem.

But... if on your way to fixing that problem, it were to rain on you, Stoicism would be against you getting angry at the clouds.

Re: What the Stoics did for us

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It feels like an older version of "sheeple". In terms of modern Stoic writing, I find Ryan Holiday's "The Ego is The Enemy" and "The Obstacle is the Way" (as well as his "Daily Stoic", although that's more of a daily devotional) to be very enjoyable and help to reframe the often hard-to-read writings of Aurelius, Seneca and Epictetus into actionable advice.

What is the singular of sheeple, anyway?

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