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Would you send your kids to school on a self driving schoolbus?

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Re: Would you send your kids to school on a self driving schoolbus?

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So many obstacles to this working! Vandalism, no adult supervision, even the extremely goofy design point that it can go forward or backward - both ends can be the front end - so others in traffic can be completely fooled about where its going next. Let's put our kids in a problematic tin can and make it move erratically! Not a genius idea.

Re: Would you send your kids to school on a self driving schoolbus?

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As long as the device is safe, yes. As long as a device is statistically safer than a human, yes.

Would I let 20 kids sit in a room for two hours unsupervised? No. Should a school bus full of kids be supervised by someone who is supposed to be driving? No. Should the school bus driver be sending texts while driving, and while supervising 30 kids? No.

Re: Would you send your kids to school on a self driving schoolbus?

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So many obstacles to this working! Vandalism, no adult supervision, even the extremely goofy design point that it can go forward or backward - both ends can be the front end - so others in traffic can be completely fooled about where its going next. Let's put our kids in a problematic tin can and make it move erratically! Not a genius idea.

You say that like those are impossible obstacles. It's been a while since I rode a school bus, but the driver wasn't exactly adult supervision, and there was plenty of vandalism already. If anything, a self-driving school bus would be a positive as it would then allow the former driver to actually focus on the kids.

Not sure I agree with the idea that others could be fooled by where it's going in traffic, given that it's programmed to obey traffic laws.

Re: Would you send your kids to school on a self driving schoolbus?

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Don't know how many people on HN have ever driven a school bus full of kids, but its a lot more than "Point A to Point B". Its fairly common for kids in K-6 to not know:

- Home Address

- Home/Parents Phone Number

- Last Name (you'd be surprised at how common this was)

Thats not to mention what to do in the event of an emergency. Just play out the follow events in your mind with a bus full of kids and no trained adults:

- Fire

- Break down on a major highway

- Collision with another vehicle

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Re: Would you send your kids to school on a self driving schoolbus?

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Great self driving so the steward has 100% focus on the kids.

No steward in the plan? The plan is, cheaper than busses. Hiring an adult for every 5 kids (only 6 seats) is prohibitively more expensive than 1 for 60 in a regular bus.

And volunteers don't work either - if they drove to school to ride along with the kids, why didn't they just drive them home themselves?

Re: Would you send your kids to school on a self driving schoolbus?

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So many obstacles to this working! Vandalism, no adult supervision, even the extremely goofy design point that it can go forward or backward - both ends can be the front end - so others in traffic can be completely fooled about where its going next. Let's put our kids in a problematic tin can and make it move erratically! Not a genius idea.

You say that like those are impossible obstacles. It's been a while since I rode a school bus, but the driver wasn't exactly adult supervision, and there was plenty of vandalism already. If anything, a self-driving school bus would be a positive as it would then allow the former driver to actually focus on the kids. Not sure I agree with the idea that others could be fooled by where it's going in traffic, given that…

I didn't mean to imply 'impossible'.

Adult supervision for extraordinary events (fire, collision, sick kid) is very feasible on an ordinary bus. We're not talking singing songs around the campfire, but a baseline of a responsible adult is very important.

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