Goodbye Google Cloud, Hello Digital Ocean
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Goodbye Google Cloud, Hello Digital Ocean
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Re: Goodbye Google Cloud, Hello Digital Ocean
#2>What has gone wrong with GCP? It was trying to be AWS. Too complex and feature-rich instead of simple and feature-complete.
Yeah no. GCP is a direct competitor to AWS, so of course Google needs (at least partly) to match Amazon's product lineup. The argument of this post boils down to "GCP should be like DO", i.e. less services and a slicker UI, but Google won't win over AWS customers with that.
Re: Goodbye Google Cloud, Hello Digital Ocean
#3>What has gone wrong with GCP? It was trying to be AWS. Too complex and feature-rich instead of simple and feature-complete. Yeah no. GCP is a direct competitor to AWS, so of course Google needs (at least partly) to match Amazon's product lineup. The argument of this post boils down to "GCP should be like DO", i.e. less services and a slicker UI, but Google won't win over AWS customers with that.
I wasn't focusing on product lineup. GCP is clearly superior to DO and AWS even more. I was just offering an alternative to someone primarily using compute. It seems AWS LightSail understood this too: https://amazonlightsail.com/
Re: Goodbye Google Cloud, Hello Digital Ocean
#4>What has gone wrong with GCP? It was trying to be AWS. Too complex and feature-rich instead of simple and feature-complete. Yeah no. GCP is a direct competitor to AWS, so of course Google needs (at least partly) to match Amazon's product lineup. The argument of this post boils down to "GCP should be like DO", i.e. less services and a slicker UI, but Google won't win over AWS customers with that.
Indeed. Further to that, there are already a lot of DO-like hosting platforms out there but fewer AWS-like solutions targeting enterprise. So why would Google target a crowded market when they have the resources to target enterprise.
Also to offer my own anecdotal experiences using DO. I find it highly inflexible when I need to do anything more granular. Sure it's easy for deploying a standard build, but anything that falls slightly outside of DO's remit quickly becomes more trouble than it's worth. Where as AWS (and similar) might intimidate new comers with it's scale and complexity but that flexibility can also be a godsend.
Re: Goodbye Google Cloud, Hello Digital Ocean
#5More of a rant.
There's time you need more flexibility. I'm serving 1.2MM requests per second from 3 GCP regions, managing instances and GKE clusters with terraform, and I cannot see how could I possibly set that up in a resilient fashion with DigitalOcean.
I think DO is perfect for certain scale apps. You usually care about UI things mostly when you spin up couple servers; but when you operate hundreds of machines you need automation.
GCP has it's quirks, e.g. * 130k connections/core limit due to conntrack, * lower networking throughput compared to AWS (16Gbps on GCP vs 25Gbps on AWS), * no support for enhanced networking (haven't tested recent Andromeda 2.1 yet, though) * no way to attach more than 8 local SSDs (arguably a good thing) * etc
So does AWS, so does DO and you have to pick what's best for your project. One thing I like in general here is competition that makes all of those services better.
EDIT: Fix conntrack typo
Re: Goodbye Google Cloud, Hello Digital Ocean
#6AWS, Azure and GCP instances are completely different to Linode, DO, Vultr, etc... With the first three you get dependable performance characteristics with minimal variation (excluding t* EC2), this is the exact thing you need to do reliable horizontal scaling. Linode and Vultr and DigitalOcean etc.. are great for the price point but if I'm CPU bound and about to scale the identical service to N boxes then it's a poor choice.
As someone pointed out you have Lightsail if you want Linode/DO from AWS. 3.2.1... lets have cliche AWS/GCP/Azure is ridiculously expensive based on some undefined VPS memory/cpu details, hey virtual core!, and let's not forget the usual HE.net / Cogent / Level3 quote of 10Gig for $2000 and work out real bandwidth from there.. :rolleyes:
Re: Goodbye Google Cloud, Hello Digital Ocean
#7More of a rant. There's time you need more flexibility. I'm serving 1.2MM requests per second from 3 GCP regions, managing instances and GKE clusters with terraform, and I cannot see how could I possibly set that up in a resilient fashion with DigitalOcean. I think DO is perfect for certain scale apps. You usually care about UI things mostly when you spin up couple servers; but when you operate hundreds of machines y…
You do get additional 2-3TB per instance which alone is a couple hundred $$ in bandwidth savings. Will it cover the price of these extra instances? Obviously if you need 8 SSDs DO isn't for you. But the real question is - could GCP be more lean back and still provide the same level of service? I think so.
Re: Goodbye Google Cloud, Hello Digital Ocean
#8More of a rant. There's time you need more flexibility. I'm serving 1.2MM requests per second from 3 GCP regions, managing instances and GKE clusters with terraform, and I cannot see how could I possibly set that up in a resilient fashion with DigitalOcean. I think DO is perfect for certain scale apps. You usually care about UI things mostly when you spin up couple servers; but when you operate hundreds of machines y…
What do you do that serves 1.2mm requests / second?
I don't disbelieve you, I'm just wondering what type of site that is since English Wikipedia is several orders of magnitude lower than that.
Re: Goodbye Google Cloud, Hello Digital Ocean
#9More of a rant. There's time you need more flexibility. I'm serving 1.2MM requests per second from 3 GCP regions, managing instances and GKE clusters with terraform, and I cannot see how could I possibly set that up in a resilient fashion with DigitalOcean. I think DO is perfect for certain scale apps. You usually care about UI things mostly when you spin up couple servers; but when you operate hundreds of machines y…
What do you do that serves 1.2mm requests / second? I don't disbelieve you, I'm just wondering what type of site that is since English Wikipedia is several orders of magnitude lower than that.
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Re: Goodbye Google Cloud, Hello Digital Ocean
#10Earlier quoted context omitted.
What do you do that serves 1.2mm requests / second? I don't disbelieve you, I'm just wondering what type of site that is since English Wikipedia is several orders of magnitude lower than that.
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Forgot to add a joke: you can judge from my nickname! :-)