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Re: Facebook users in Romania see content related to street protests reviewed

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I'm a Romanian and I can confirm that posts and accounts have been blocked, probably because of being reported by the other side. On the other hand, folks, this is a little reminder that censorship is a doubly edged knife ;-) So next time you call for censoring "fake news", think again, because it's not you who will benefit from it. A couple of years back I was enthusiastic about the rise of social media for informin…

wtf, I am romanian and I posted on all international social networks about this event, It's not only Facebook in this world, be creative guys please.

Re: Facebook users in Romania see content related to street protests reviewed

#223

This is exactly why I think it's dangerous to have a company like Facebook censor people, even in the name of "fake news." It's within their right to do so on their platform, but I don't think they should. You'll never get it 100% right, and real/legitimate people will end up silenced because of it. I wouldn't want that on my conscience.

> This is exactly why I think it's dangerous to have a company like Facebook censor people, even in the name of "fake news."

What makes you think this was "in the name of 'fake news'"? It's entirely possible -- and, in fact, much more likely -- that the posts were reported as spam, violent, pornographic, or otherwise abusive. Unless you're arguing that Facebook should throw up their hands and let any content at all on their web site?

Re: Facebook users in Romania see content related to street protests reviewed

#224

I'm a Romanian and I can confirm that posts and accounts have been blocked, probably because of being reported by the other side. On the other hand, folks, this is a little reminder that censorship is a doubly edged knife ;-) So next time you call for censoring "fake news", think again, because it's not you who will benefit from it. A couple of years back I was enthusiastic about the rise of social media for informin…

>A couple of years back I was enthusiastic about the rise of social media for informing and coordinating citizens to fight injustice. Now that I'm older and wiser, I can tell you that no evolution or revolution can happen because of Facebook, only regression. Facebook is poison. I'll add to that. The internet is a great tool for coordinating citizens, spreading information, and fighting injustice. Having facebook , o…

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Re: Facebook users in Romania see content related to street protests reviewed

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> "Fake news" came into popular usage because Trump was using it to disparage critical real news. No, it came into popular usage to refer to propaganda supporting Trump which closely followed what RAND Corp. labelled the “firehose of falsehoods” propaganda strategy used by Russia. It was subsequently co-opted by Trump in the way you describe, but that's not how it came into popular usage.

No, you're completely politicizing an issue based on your warped world view. That's just as damaging as fake news. Here's an article from 2014 discussing fake news: https://www.bostonglobe.com/arts/2014/08/30/large-the-intern... Here's an article from 2011 discussing the measures taken against fake news (to little effect) since 2006: https://www.freepress.net/blog/11/12/21/truth-about-fake-new...

Google trends graph shows a fairly recent and step spike for the phrase "fake news"[1]. I'm sure the phrase was intermittently used for some time, but it's current usage send new, and much more popular.

My memory is the same as the comment you are replying to. "Fake news" was a left attack on the media supporting Donald Trump (think Breitbart). Trump and friends then coopted the term to describe the mainstream media and repeated it enough for the term to become associated more as Trump-thing than anything else.

1 - https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=today%205-y&q=...

Re: Facebook users in Romania see content related to street protests reviewed

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As the Romanian government I'd be careful... Romania has a well developed IT sector (especially for a developing country) and they recently pissed off most of the geeks in the country with the new tax code. I'm also willing to bet that these people as a vast majority weren't voters for the party currently in power. And the Romanian government is far from having NSA's IT prowess (yes, I know that they botched up quite…

> especially for a developing country I’m not sure ‘developing country’ is the right term here, however I agree compared to Western European countries, most Eastern European countries aren’t quiet as ‘developed’ (disclaimer: I live in one) which I assume is what you meant to imply. Heck even Western/Eastern is bad, because Finland definitely isn’t in the west of Europe... So is there a better term to describe this ty…

I'd rather agree it's a correct term. With such a growth of GDP the country is indeed developing: https://www.google.ch/search?q=growth+of+gdp+romania

Re: Facebook users in Romania see content related to street protests reviewed

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> I think what many people don't know or understand, is that facebook is not the internet. Once, I had a debate online with someone. I linked them an external (non-facebook) link. Their reply was "sorry, my data-plan only covers Facebook". That to me is very scary. This means that a lot of people like that individual are getting their online content from Facebook's trending news and nothing else.

I wonder what plan that was - wasn't there a "free" Internet thing planned that'd only allow access to Facebook? Time to start tunnelling data.

I have seen plans like this in multiple countries around the world. You buy sim card and have let's say 1 GB mobile traffic per day but Facebook/Youtube/Instagram is not counted into it so you can watch unlimited Youtube videos and use Facebook as much as you like. Quite scary, it will trap people in these walled gardens even more because of how these plans are structured.

Re: Facebook users in Romania see content related to street protests reviewed

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I downvoted your parent comment for misspelling Gandhi[0] (as Ghandi, which they corrected now, well after my comment, without calling it out); doesn't go well with the confident assertion about why the British left India. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahatma_Gandhi

> I downvoted your parent comment for misspelling Gandhi[0] That's not a valid reason to downvote, unless you're sure they did it purpose as an insult. You could have just pointed out the error.

I pointed out why I downvoted. Not for the misspelling, but using a common incorrect spelling when making a confident assertion about the Indian independence movement. I am sure the commenter knows nothing about it, so I downvoted.

Re: Facebook users in Romania see content related to street protests reviewed

#230

This is exactly why I think it's dangerous to have a company like Facebook censor people, even in the name of "fake news." It's within their right to do so on their platform, but I don't think they should. You'll never get it 100% right, and real/legitimate people will end up silenced because of it. I wouldn't want that on my conscience.

> This is exactly why I think it's dangerous to have a company like Facebook censor people, even in the name of "fake news." What makes you think this was "in the name of 'fake news'"? It's entirely possible -- and, in fact, much more likely -- that the posts were reported as spam, violent, pornographic, or otherwise abusive. Unless you're arguing that Facebook should throw up their hands and let any content at all o…

It's also possible that Facebook was told to remove this content by the Romanian government. Their policy is to comply.
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