I think that most media outlets make a wrong assumption about online content. They think that everybody wants content that's free above all else, so they swamp their content with ads. But I think it's more that people want diversity. I'll happily support news outlets financially, but at $300/yr for Globe&Mail and $260/yr for NYTimes, etc, the cost is just ridiculous. I WANT to support good journalism, but I want to p…
> The salable entity in the internet era shouldn't be a subscription to a newspaper, it should be an article. I think this is spot-on. My guess is that a browser based micropayment solution/ecosystem will emerge (a la Brave and its Basic Attention Token).
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Re: Asking members to support journalism, The Guardian raises more revenue than ads
#332I would be happy to support The Guardian etc. But this persona does not have credit/debit cards. So I have no way to pay them. I do support GnuPG and Riseup, however, because they accept Bitcoin.
The digital equivalent of a postal money order would be nice to have.
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Well, if we're doing quick parody headlines as stand-ins, it's actually impossible to out-Guardian the Guardian: "I dread the day my daughter's poos get smaller" https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/aug/08/dread-... "Tea is a national disgrace" "Robots are racist and sexist, just like the people who created them" In any case, good on them for proving out this revenue model, hopefully it's sustainable and we…
My favourite: "How ancient lentils reveal the origins of social inequality" https://amp.theguardian.com/science/2017/oct/11/lentils-orig...
But that one comes from the researchers themselves:
>The weakening of a strong communal ideology surrounding food production and storage increased the potential for dominant families to emerge, either through consistently greater success, or through force or unequal conditions of exchange. This in turn created the preconditions of specialisation and social inequality upon which urban life was founded in Mesopotamia.
(and that conjecture was based on lentils found by archaeologists)
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It is clear from the context that I am talking about corruption
We have an NJ senator going through a corruption case right now. And he's seeming like he will be saved because the Supreme Court allowed certain amounts of corruption before so he's only getting off because we made some stuff legal. I'm guessing he isn't at the back of a hypothetical list. Most democrats who talk about him are also in support of him if I'm not mistaken. There's also the behind the scenes supporting…
right, in my example, they take two candies. my point is not that the democrats aren't somewhat corrupt, but that the level of scope insensitivity that you have to have not to see a difference between republicans and democrats should probably count as a disability.
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Both sides perceive the outgroup as the source of all evil in the world. You could replace left/right and republican/democrat in your comment and there would be people on the other side who sincerely believe it as much as you do. Neither claim is accurate.
For those curious, I'd recommend looking at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_equivalence or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_balance . Sometimes, right and wrong isn't always obvious. To know one from another may require effort and thought. Often times, the truth is somewhere in the middle, and so we develop instincts that ensure we can take a step back and not immediately point fingers. That's good; most of us…
> Sometimes, right and wrong isn't always obvious. To know one from another may require effort and thought.
The problem is that much of the progressive movement is convinced that not only do they have all the right answers, but that their conclusions are not up for debate. To even open up a dialogue on transgender issues (for example) is considered harmful, violent, toxic, hateful.
This happens over and over, but here is this week's example: http://nationalpost.com/news/canada/heres-the-full-recording...
I disagree with the right on almost everything, but the left has serious problems that it needs to work out before it can claim to be the party of truth.
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As far as Polish media go, I really like: oko.press - the best investigative journalism in Poland. They proclaim to focus 2/3 of their coverage on ruling party and 1/3 on the rest. Time will tell if they are honest with that. The strategy makes sense, because government has the most power. wp.pl - while it has very clickbaity headlines, it's surprisingly balanced when it comes to point of view. Polish political scene…
I had high hopes for oko.press but since they seem to have 3/3 negative coverage of the ruling party, and not in an investigative way, but kind of sensational in headlines, I got disappointed. But Angora is an outlet I forgot about but remember very positively, I need to check it out again.
Press has no duty to be positive towards anyone. Critical thinking is what they do and they're very good at it. They often criticize the government, but they stick to facts and check their facts. Surely you don't blame them for pointing out falsehoods ? Why don't you instead blame people who lie ? Whenever an opposition member makes a false statement they point it out too.
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#337Guardian is too opinionated to say that this is a good thing. Its contributors are more often "feeding their bubble" rather than supporting independent journalism. You can see that their quality has gone down rather than up during this time.
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> Brexit happens despite the upper class talking down and ignoring the larger population) The Brexiteers as the leading group like to style themselves (I prefer BeLeaver), are a bunch of the most priviledged upper class old boys of the most expensive schools in England. Boris the Clown went to Eton. Jacob Rees-Mogg got his nanny to deliver election leaflets...and also went to Eton. Farage himself is an ex stock-broke…
Yes, political movements tend to be headed by the wealthy and successful. I was a member a pro remain group where the same charge could be made. The authors point is that Brexit was supported by working class non metropolitan people more than remain was.
[Citation needed]
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#339A quick review of UK print media 1) The Times - Rupert Murdoch mouthpiece. Employs MP Michael Gove for £100k a year after he was sacked for being a backstabber. 2) The Mail - "The EU and immigrants want to kill your children and sleep with your sister and may even affect your house price". Billionaire owner too. 3) The Telegraph - "The Torygraph" former paper of the ruling classes, now mouth piece of two weird billio…
Does the FT actually still print the share prices? I guess maybe the older demographic likes that. The majority of their subscribers are online now so I guess never notice. Their online only content makes the print edition much worse.
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> My guess is that a browser based micropayment solution/ecosystem will emerge I think so too, I think it's just a question of outlets realizing that the lost profits from cannibalizing their subscription sales does not compare to the income from allowing consumers to buy pieces of your publication.
It was tried in the past. There were attempts to get newspapers to unite behind single group subscription schemes. The newspapers themselves rejected it. Problem is if a third party collects your income for you, you're not really independent anymore. Also, they don't want to receive pennies because someone read a single article they wrote, they want long term subscribers. Finally it requires them to all adopt paywall…
Project Alesia was the internal name.