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Re: Facebook users in Romania see content related to street protests reviewed

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Post by petre »

rdtsc wrote: post #5

I was joking before and said that it is inevitable that Facebook, Google and Twitter will eventually sell SaaS (Silencing as a Service). But maybe it wasn't a joke after all... It is simply too tempting to not do it. They have information which the Stasis and KGBs of the past would kill for. One thing Romanian government should be careful with is not listening to protesters. That is at least one country where they ha…

> Please don't encourage violence.

The 2017 protests were peaceful.

The ones in 1989 were violent all over Eastern Europe with the exception of Czech Republic. The killing of Romania's late dictator and the mock trial was the doing of former secret police, who's corrupt offspring and relatives are the politicians in power today. They only took advantage of the protests to picture themselves as heroes and sieze power for themselves.

Anti Trump protesters that destroyed private property are just vandals who can't accept the outcome of a democratic election.

Re: Facebook users in Romania see content related to street protests reviewed

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Post by fosco »

mrtksn wrote: post #102
ankhkare wrote: post #99

Earlier quoted context omitted.

LOL, 2 posts about this on HN top!? really!?

Really what?

I think ankhkare is referring to the other discussion thread about this situation. can be seen here [0]

[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15790687

Re: Facebook users in Romania see content related to street protests reviewed

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Post by adventured »

eecc wrote: post #52
wolco wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Violence? Drag his body down the street? Attacking innocent people until everyone does what you say? Those groups get labelled terrorist. That is the difference between a first world country and a second or third. Some people may hate trump but they also know in a few years people will have the option of voting for someone else. When you change leaders by dragging them down a street you get the types of leaders who w…

Nope, the difference between first, second and third world is whether a country aligns to the USA block, the USSR bloc or remain unaligned and pretend to stay out of the Cold War stand-off. That Third World Non-aligned countries tended to be piss-poor, plundered failed states, and theaters for proxy wars between USA and USSR helped the confusion that the classification is of economic development. It’s not

You're using an old defintion that is very rarely used today. It's now considered archaic, relegated to the dustbin of history. In fact, you're attempting to educate the parent precisely because of how old and out of use that defintion is. Further, it's so out of use, the most common dictionary references to eg first world, are always about level of development / industrialization and not cold war political alignments.

First, second and third world is now drastically more commonly used as a reference to the level of development.

Re: Facebook users in Romania see content related to street protests reviewed

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Post by TheAdamAndChe »

13of40 wrote: post #98
eecc wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That’s what they teach in the classrooms you faithfully attended. Gotta love the raptured eyes of the pupils, so alike those wondering about the virtues of Stalinism...

The ex-Soviets I've talked to about this pretty unanimously relate that they were raised to think the USSR was the best country on earth, just like we are in the US. They also tend to agree that life here is way, way better. In other words, just because we both had to recite a Pledge of Allegiance every morning doesn't mean we both had exile, mass murder, man-made famines, etc., on the same scale.

Just because some country in the past had it worse doesn't mean our country now doesn't have massive structural issues. A republic requires the trust of its people to function properly, and the fact that this trust is nearly gone in America should be worrying to everyone.

Re: Facebook users in Romania see content related to street protests reviewed

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Post by oblio »

bad_user wrote: post #64

I'm a Romanian and I can confirm that posts and accounts have been blocked, probably because of being reported by the other side. On the other hand, folks, this is a little reminder that censorship is a doubly edged knife ;-) So next time you call for censoring "fake news", think again, because it's not you who will benefit from it. A couple of years back I was enthusiastic about the rise of social media for informin…

As the Romanian government I'd be careful... Romania has a well developed IT sector (especially for a developing country) and they recently pissed off most of the geeks in the country with the new tax code.

I'm also willing to bet that these people as a vast majority weren't voters for the party currently in power.

And the Romanian government is far from having NSA's IT prowess (yes, I know that they botched up quite a few things, but you have to keep in mind that the NSA & US government are playing at an entirely different level than most countries in the world except for maybe China, Russia and 3-4 others). At least on the IT front things the blow back could an order of magnitude bigger than what they're trying to do, clumsily.

Re: Facebook users in Romania see content related to street protests reviewed

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Post by oblio »

pawelk wrote: post #11
paulddraper wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sorry, but I don't get the reference. Is Santa Claus Romanian?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicolae_Ceau%C8%99escu#Death I think that, coincidentally, Nicolae would be Romanian for Claus?

Santa Claus comes from Saint Nicholas, which yes, would be Sfântul Nicolae.

Re: Facebook users in Romania see content related to street protests reviewed

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Post by mrtksn »

fosco wrote: post #112
mrtksn wrote: post #102

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Really what?

I think ankhkare is referring to the other discussion thread about this situation. can be seen here [0] [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15790687

I understand that, what it has to do with my comment though? I think ankhkare disagrees with me on a fundamental level and I'm curious about it.

Re: Facebook users in Romania see content related to street protests reviewed

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Post by rdiddly »

lsd5you wrote: post #86
timthelion wrote: post #62

I find this especially weird given Facebook's incredibly lax approach to extreme right virulently racist posters in Eastern Europe. Like if Facebook, was censoring things that they found controversial, I'd get it, but it seems that they just censor randomly.

Surely it's just at the behest of the host governments? i.e. The ones who can threaten to block Facebook from their entire countries? That is to say it is a business decision. At this point I think we can be entirely cynical about their motives. To the extent that there is any semblance of a moral dimension to their actions (perhaps someone can point to those occasions if they exist) it is probably still just a busin…

Yep, Facebook's loyalty is to Facebook. So they haven't so much betrayed the Romanian opposition, as shown the true allegiance they had all along.
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