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I think you are talking about Blue Chips with Nick Nolte?
I don't think it was that. It was more focused on the college student bookie.
I think this is the one, from ESPN's 30 for 30 series.
Will Supreme Court open a ‘dam burst’ of legalized sports betting?
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Re: Will Supreme Court open a ‘dam burst’ of legalized sports betting?
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What's your definition of consenting adult? A person with a gambling problem is about as able to give informed consent as a mentally retarded person.
That's a bit patronizing, don't you think? Have you thought about all of the other freedoms you could restrict based on identical reasoning? It's a very long list.
What do you consider addiction to be then? How rationally impaired do you have to be before society throws up their hands and stops you from being taken advantage of?
Re: Will Supreme Court open a ‘dam burst’ of legalized sports betting?
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>>> between allowing gambling to be run by organized crime and creating a system that enables at least a modicum of accountability. By that logic nothing should be illegal as making anything illegal simply creates a black market. Some things are bad. Some things are just evil and need to be banned. Laws are meant to prevent people from doing things they otherwise would want to do. Gambling is a classic vice. If peopl…
> If people want it banned then they should be able, through government, to ban it If this was put to a national referendum today, no more than 10% of the votes would be to ban gambling. People enjoy it and are overwhelmingly capable of grasping the risks. For those that can't, stay away or phone that number on the sign in the casino that puts you in touch with a gambling addiction counselor. Silicon Valley has such…
Facebook and Twitter hit the exact same addictive pleasure center of the brain as that one-armed bandit
Re: Will Supreme Court open a ‘dam burst’ of legalized sports betting?
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I get the general point, but as far as I know that purist interpenetration is not actually applied in courts or used in legislatures, other than in a very general sense. I'd love it if someone could inform us about what the laws really are (not the 10th Amendment, but the body of Congressional and state laws) and how they are applied by courts. > Self-determination of peoples People in Newark have self-determination…
> as far as I know that purist interpenetration is not actually applied in courts Well, you're right about that. In practice New Jersey can be forced to commit to go further than what they've agreed to. That doesn't make it right. > People in Newark have self-determination in Washington; they elected those government officials too. This is a bit of a distortion of the concept. If the UN started telling your country w…
> If the UN ...
I don't see how the UN is anything like the U.S. government, in terms of the self-determination of people in NJ. (And of course the UN and U.S. government are unalike in many other ways too, beginning with the fact that one is a sovereign, democratically legitimate government and the other is a multilateral international organization. The UN is more like ISO than it is like the U.S. government.)
Re: Will Supreme Court open a ‘dam burst’ of legalized sports betting?
#105Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's a bit patronizing, don't you think? Have you thought about all of the other freedoms you could restrict based on identical reasoning? It's a very long list.
What do you consider addiction to be then? How rationally impaired do you have to be before society throws up their hands and stops you from being taken advantage of?
How rationally impaired do you have to be before society throws up their hands and stops you from being taken advantage of?
OK, you've convinced me. When do we make our move on the gambling halls? Before we shutter the taverns and the churches, or afterward?
Re: Will Supreme Court open a ‘dam burst’ of legalized sports betting?
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I'm not sure if you've ever spent any time in an American casino, but the sports book is not where you find 'really old people', except perhaps the handful of older guys betting on horse races. And at the sports book area, chances are that you aren't going to encounter the sort of obvious problem gamblers that you see glued to the video poker and slots.
We're definitely just trading anecdotes here, but I assume you've never spent any time inside the local TAB in a rural Australian town; It's not exactly filled to the brim with young professional up-and-comers. My experience in Australia doesn't generalise perfectly to the US, of course. I wonder how much it does at all. That lack of certainty doesn't stop me from worrying what things would look like if it translates…
Sports gambling in the US is definitely quite different from what one encounters in the Commonwealths, but it also isn't that the sports books are filled with 'young professional up-and-comers'. It's a range of men, generally between 25-65, that have an interest in sports that borders on unhealthy, but take great pride in making 'smart' and generally conservative bets.