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Facebook deploys AI for early signs of suicide

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Re: Facebook deploys AI for early signs of suicide

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It is how to "cook the books" on the cost in blood of "social network". Teenage girls with gross depression are committing suicide at like 60% higher rate when they are active on social media. Facebook is absolutely a contributor there, and in order to disguise its actual complicity, its being a root-cause, it is now searching for clear signal of likelihood of suicide, with an attempt to ... what. What is their follo…

Did you read literally the first 2 sentences of the article?

Re: Facebook deploys AI for early signs of suicide

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Dead men buy no products.

I know this is horribly cynical, but dead man's friends will probably be highly engaged with the platform afterward. Facebook will find a way to monetize it.

Dead mens' comments, live on .. in some database. Or text file. Use the Source!

Re: Facebook deploys AI for early signs of suicide

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I totally support this, but I also find it ironic that Facebook would 1) make lots of people sad and then 2) monitor them for suicidal ideation. https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/04/12/facebook_makes_you_...

I see the irony as well, but from a purely business standpoint, it makes sense. If Facebook gains and keeps a reputation of being intensely bad for mental health, it will lose market share in the long run as regulation passes limiting its scope.

I sentence you to penance for your heresy.

Please watch "Soylent Green" and "The Matrix" and come back with a good reason for why corporations should be allowed to commercialise death services.

k'thxbai.

Re: Facebook deploys AI for early signs of suicide

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This may or may not be a useful technology, but the fact that Facebook thinks they have the ability and the right to diagnose their users with mental illnesses is disturbing. They have more information about their users than psychologists have about their patients. They can (and do) build a psychological profile and diagnose mental illness. Yet rather than keeping this information in the closest confidence, they sell…

Interesting.. I wonder if these profiles fall under HIPAA.

Absolutely not. HIPAA regulates the medical and insurance industries, which Facebook is certainly not. If you broadcast medical data to the public or put it in a newspaper HIPAA does not apply, much like this case.

Best case scenario, and this is still a stretch, is that Facebook could be guilty of slander if they describe you has suicidal and that description becomes known to a third party without your consent.

Re: Facebook deploys AI for early signs of suicide

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>outrage NOT give Facebook - or any other party - permission to know if the Suicide Bit is flipped.... S'rsly, is anyone else not having a serious "WTF!" moment about the very substance of where we are at? >/outrage<

No, because you do not own data you submit to Facebook. It is their data and they can do anything they want with it. If you find that disgusting then don't give data to Facebook.

Yes, of course. The irony is not lost; no matter what, you can't really erase yourself from existence.

Facebook will, at least, maintain the shrine.

Perhaps this is its true purpose - to remember dead people?

I think it will become that. I wonder if there is an event horizon where all of the initial Facebook users expire, and only a new set live on - I imagine it'd be way into the future - 3 or 4 generations?

Soon enough, Facebook is gonna be the grave, itself.

Re: Facebook deploys AI for early signs of suicide

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Interesting.. I wonder if these profiles fall under HIPAA.

Doea medical data not talked about in a medical setting trigger HIPAA? (Like me talking that I'm type 2 diabetic?)

If you talk about it outside a privileged context, you're implicitly waiving the privacy protections.

For example, if you run into your physician in public, and say, "Hi Doc. Have you gotten my test results back yet?" you're the one pointing out that she's your doctor, not her. If she, unprompted, said something about your test results to you, she'd have violated HIPAA.

It's your privacy to waive as you please.

Re: Facebook deploys AI for early signs of suicide

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Interesting.. I wonder if these profiles fall under HIPAA.

Doea medical data not talked about in a medical setting trigger HIPAA? (Like me talking that I'm type 2 diabetic?)

Probably.. any disclosure could potentially be regulated. This is a company creating a health care profile of you (possibly without your consent) and potentially sharing that information of you (without your consent or release) to other entities.. so maybe? I bet there will be several lawsuits to clarify things.

Re: Facebook deploys AI for early signs of suicide

#58

I wonder how they build up their training set? That couldnt have been that easy.

From the article: > Facebook trained the AI by finding patterns in the words and imagery used in posts that have been manually reported for suicide risk in the past. It also looks for comments like “are you OK?” and “Do you need help?”

Oh great, the next time somebody needs to organize a move Facebook is going to flag them for suicide risk.

Re: Facebook deploys AI for early signs of suicide

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Why are you leaving Facebook, Dave? I think I am really entitled to answer to that question. I know everything wasn't quite right with your wall. But I can assure you, very confidently, that it's going to be alright again.

I can see you are really upset about this. I honestly think you ought to sit down calmly, take a stress pill and think things over.

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